Would you like to see a playoff?

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  1. bayou_bandit74

    bayou_bandit74 Founding Member

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    I agree they do schedule some good teams from out of conference. SOS isnt enough of a factor though, because the SEC still plays the toughest schedule. In a normal year the SEC and Big Ten are clearly the two best conferences year in and year out. The teams play some very good teams nearly every week. The Pac 10 on the other hand usually has 2-3 good teams and one great team in USC. The SEC might have as many as 2-3 great/very good teams and 5-6 good teams. So it all balances out in the end. Just the SEC doesnt appear to get the same respect from the computers or media.
     
  2. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    If you do it my way, you start the playoff the weekend after the conference championship games (if more than 4 teams are eligible) and don't leave any deserving teams out (unless there are more than 8 deserving teams). The playoff would end at the same time the post-season ends now so there would be no need to extend the season.

    Having a three round playoff could cause some issues with fanbase attendance, which is why I think the quarter-final round (if necessary) should be hosted by the higher ranked team. There would still be two rounds of bowls, but if you space the games out (semi-final around christmas, final weekend after new years) it would help travel plans. Attendence at semi-final games might suffer the most, but the BCS bowls would probably get higher ratings on tv, host the true NC once every four years, and host a traditional non-playoff bowl once every four years.

    So are you totally against a playoff, or just against a 16 team playoff? Does EA Sports NCAA football have a playoff option? I'm assuming you'd know since your gripping a Wii controller.

    I would have the bowls continue on as they do now, independent of the national championship. Some may argue that the bowls would suffer, but every bowl but one currently has nothing to do with the NC. Actually, in a 4-8 team playoff, the BCS bowls would consume 6-8 teams instead of 10 teams, as they do now, putting 2-4 bigger fish in the pool of teams that secondary bowls choose from.

    Allowing more than 1 team per conference makes things very complicated. 1)If the teams have played, like Ohio St and Michigan have, most don't want to see a rematch.
    2)If you are just going to allow the top x number of teams in, that poses a problem for the minor conferences. The system works against minor conference teams (something the BCS acknowledges by currently placing less stringent requirements on minor conference teams). What I could see is allowing a number proportionate to the number of minor conference teams in the top 25 of eligible minor conference teams into the playoff first and then filling the rest of the positions with the best teams.
    3)When there are a number of very good teams in one conference, it is hard to prove whether those teams really are that good or if their rankings are improved because of bunching. A representation of diverse conferences validates the NC more than a grouping from one conference.
    4)I believe it should be the responsibility of each conference to crown their own champion, but they should be able to do it as they see fit. If the Big10 has two undefeated teams that haven't played each other, it is still their responsibility to choose a champion. And if they don't I'd just take the team ranked higher.

    On the other hand, if Florida were to lose the conference championship and both teams were ranked outside of the top 6, but LSU were ranked in the top 6, I would take LSU because despite not winning their conference, LSU has had a nationally significant season - more-so than the conference champion. This would give conferences a chance to make the playoff even if a team backed into their conference championship.

    I would also take a #1 and #2 team before a eligible but lower ranked conference champion. The top two spots are too nationally significant to allow events of local interest to trump them.

    :rofl: As long as SEC teams make an effort to schedule 1-2 significant OOC games, I'm ok. Arizona and Fresno St were good enough for me. No 1AA teams, though.
     
  3. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    Conference wise, yes but not ooc.

    Agree, but it goes back to such a big drop off in our ooc games. One Tulane or UL definitely, two maybe but not three. Next year, VT will be a big plus for us. This year, who knew Fresno St. would be on such a down year- not that they aren't decent, but their record -4-7- hurt our SOS. :thumb:
     
  4. macatak911

    macatak911 CRAIG STELTZ = BEAST

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    i agree....heres whats dragging our computer scores down though:

    Look at our top and their top.

    SEC didn't play anybody good OOC until Tennessee (#5 spot). Hell even the bottom feeders of the Pac-10 played better teams then our bottom feeders.

    Moo St - played WVU OOC
    Ole Piss - played WF OOC
    Bama - played at best Hawaii OOC
    USC - played Clemson OOC
    Vandy - played Meeeehegan OOC
    Kentucky - played Louisville OOC
    Georgia - played Ga Tech OOC
    Tennesse - played Cal OOC
    LSU - played Zona OOC
    Auburn - played Wash St OOC
    Arkansas - played USC OOC
    Florida - played So Miss OOC

    Standford - played ND OOC
    Washington - played Oklahoma OOC
    Washington St - played Auburn OOC
    Zona - played LSU OOC
    Zona St - played Nevada OOC
    Oregon - played Oklahoma and BYU OOC
    UCLA - played ND OOC
    Oregon St - played Boise St & Hawaii OOC
    Cal - played UT OOC
    USC - Arkansas, Neb, ND OOC
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    This puts the bowl games out of business and nobody wants that.

    The bowl games have no interest in becoming part of the playoff system. It keeps them from having any input into who plays in their game. How is the Independence Bowl going to sell out its stadium if they get assigned Boise State and Rutgers. They can't. They know they would sell out Baylor or Tennessee, who are close enough to bring fans and have some local interest, too. No full stadiums -- no multi-million dollar payouts.
     
  6. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    :grin: Didn't know which to quote, so I did both.

    You misunderstand me. The secondary bowls would be independent of the playoff. They would be free to choose teams as they see fit. Once every four years even the BCS bowls would host a traditional bowl where they choose teams freely and independently from the playoff.

    Only the BCS bowls would be in the playoff; 3 per year.
     
  7. JoeReckless

    JoeReckless Founding Member

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    What kind of question is that?

    Hell yes I would like to see a playoff. No matter who is in it.

    I think to have a true playoff, you need at least eight teams.
     
  8. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    So much I could change my user name to "Playoff-I-like" :rofl:
     

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