Wisconsin schools call off classes as budget protests continue

More of those "lies" that Fox reports.

 

your figures are from 89-2010. He was talking about the last election.

2010 Outside Spending by Groups | OpenSecrets

 

Wrong again, here's 2010.

Top PACs | OpenSecrets

Four of the top 10, and half of the top 20, political action committees (PAC) are union-related. The Electrical Workers lead the pack, having donated $2,561,123 to political candidates from 2009 to 2010. With a huge majority of the total donations going to Democrats.

 

Outside Spending | OpenSecrets

open secret tag, you're it.

 

Show me where the figure is 19 to 1

 

Even if it were, so what. It is a stupid analytic. Its not baselined. I would be willing to bet that everyone in my negihborhood donated more 25X1 more than the deaf people in your neighborhood.

 

Ok, i don't have a calculator that deals in hundreds of millions but I will give it a shot anyway.

(excluding party committees) Out of the top 10 spenders for the 2010 election cycle. 3 were unions that supported democrats. Together they spent a total of $37,172,920. As far as the conservative backers, The Chamber of Commerce alone spent 32,851,997, followed by the American Action Network which spent 26,088,031, followed by American Crossroads and Karl Rove which spent 21,553,277, followed by Crossroads Grassroots Policy Strategies which spent 17,122,446, American Future Fund with 9,599,806, followed by Americans for job security 8,991,209 followed by Club for Growth 8,240,060.

That was just the top 10, and I get a round about number of 3.36 times more. I don't know if it's 19, you have to ask luvdim where he got his numbers from, but it's significantly more.

 

Not even close, according to the bar chart Total Liberal Spending in 2010 was $201,400,000 while Total Conservative Spending in 2010 was $267,300,000. That does not equate to 3.36 times.

What does that have to do with the price of rice in China? The initial argument was corporations spent 19 times more than anyone else on election campaigns. It's a bogus statement that has no basis in fact.

 

Here you go, Kemosabe:

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In the political process, corporations already outspend unions more than 19-to-1. [FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]In 2010, corporate interests spent more than $1 billion in political contributions, 19 times more than unions spent. In addition, conservative groups spent more than $300 million in independent expenditures and electioneering communications. Excluding party committees, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce was the biggest outside spender, putting out more than $32 million worth of electioneering communications. And in 2010, corporations and special interests spent more than $2 billion on lobbying. New restrictions on unions’ participation in the political and legislative process would only tilt the balance of power even further in favor of corporations. [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman](Center for Responsive Politics, accessed 12/1/10)
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If you look at the ones I listed in the other post the figure does come out to 3.36. I was talking about the top 10, and your figure includes party committees (i said in the earlier post that i excluded party committees) If you exclude party committees, the total is 190 million for the conservatives and 94.1 for the liberals. That's double. And like I said the 3.36 figure only comes from the top 10 (7 of which are republican funders, 3 union democrat funders). The top 7 contributors for Republicans contributed roughly 124.5 million of the 190 million. That's roughly 65%.

Again, I have no idea where the 19 to 1 number came from, but my whole issue with this, is if you want to destroy the unions, then you have to make it to where corporations cannot contribute to campaign funds. I think that is a fair trade. Elections are being bought, not won.

well, nevermind then, luvdim answered you.