Will the TPM hurt the GOP in november?

Why is it that Bush's health care initiatives are "laid on us" and Obama's are The Word of the Lord?
There comes a point when the deficit and debt are such that spending has to stop. We've been there for 4 years now, all under a Democrat controlled Congress.

I didn't say they won't make any money. I said their additional costs will be passed along to us.

I said I didn't want to pay any more than I already do. I pay plenty toward the entitlements of others (who don't pay a cent, by the way).

Nobody knows much about the plan including the 3 Amigos.

That was then and this is now, Hoss.

 

I generally agree with what you are saying, but there is fundamental dishonesty in your rebuttal. This is not an R vs. D issue. This is a D and R vs. the People issue. How you haven't noticed that is beyond me.

We have been posting growing deficits for 9 years now. Which started under a Republican administration, with a Republican Congress. It is intellectually dishonest to lay this at the Democraps feet. The Republican party is every bit as guilty.

This isn't true, the vast majority of entitlement spending is on old people, who paid all along the way just like you. You don't even have a beef. You are going to get social security. It's my generation that is going to pay in and never collect.

 

Your spinning facts, just like your right wing heroes.

The last four years were a democratic congress, what you don't say is that spending exploded under all 8 years of Bush (tax cuts, unpaid for, unjustified war in Iraq, etc) of which 6 of those years were under Republican congress.

 

I know that but the Bush thing was directed at Red since he's all for Obama's POS but thinks Bush's was crap. I agree that both are crap.

5 of those years were mostly defense (war) spending. Now we have war spending plus massive entitlement spending. The buck has to stop somewhere.

I paid in for 40 years, but I have other sources of retirement income. I would suggest your generation plan accordingly.

 

I'm not spinning. It's Obama who's trying to pin all of his problems on the GOP.

 

I don't mean this as being a smartass, but how is that any different from you heaping all the debt, including debt inherited from when the GOP controlled all 3 branches of goverment, on Obama?

How is his healthcare plan any worse than the prescription drug bill? I don't recall you having a big problem with that, but maybe I'm wrong, maybe you did.

 

Fair enough.

But it is the principle I object to. If the wars are necessary other things may have to be sacraficed. Was NCLB or Medicare part D so critical that they couldn't be scrapped in order to keep the budget healthy? My problem is the Republicans did exactly what they are lambasting the Democrats for... they never made a choice. They did it all, and now they expect us to think they changed. I'm not buying it.

 

I hear you. All I'm saying is it's time to stop spending and let this economy get back on it's feet. These Dems won't do that.

 

If Bush's prescription health plan was such bad policy then why didn't the recent super majority Democratically controlled congress revoke it? This is why it's disingenuous for you to blame Bush for future deficits. The Dems are running the show now.