Why won't Palin talk?

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by lsu-i-like, Sep 23, 2008.

  1. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    You can spin it 360 degrees if you want, thats not how it went down. Maybe in your world, but not in reality of the MSM. You can jockey all you want, but members of congress positioned to Bush that McCain shouldnt be their without Obama as a matter of fact, Republican Tom Coburn petition Bush to invite Obama as well. You would like to give McCain the credit and not include that him being down 9 points in the polls as an indicator. But your failure is that you think nobody else researches these decisions. Your other failure is your attempt at humor and sarcasim at the sametime. I wont even say it was a good try, that would be giving you too much credit.
     
  2. Bengal Buddy

    Bengal Buddy Founding Member

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    Your grammer, syntax and spelling is so poor it is hard for me to get your point. But McCain is down 9 points in one poll. Averaging out 10 top polls, he is down 3.5 points. That means he and Obama are in a virtual tie.

    My post was no spin. It was the facts.
     
  3. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    McCain didnt suggest shyt to Bush.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26878790/

    Article from the Washington Post.



     
  4. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    Thats great, try to change the subject based in another lie of yours, to try turn this into a English class. Although you make yourself look pretty limited in debate and facts. But you do seem to specialize in lies, I see why you're a McCain fan. Post your proof or source that says it was McCains idea to include Obama.
    You continue to make up stuff without citations or sources to back it up.
    Also, point out what I misspelled and where the grammar is wrong, professor.
    Or could you be talking about your use of run-on sentences and using the incorrect tense in another.
     
  5. PURPLE TIGER

    PURPLE TIGER HOPE is not a strategy!

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    Obama will be a great president = FANTASY

    McCain will be a great president = FANTASY

    Obama or McCain will be president = SAD REALITY

    I'm a tax-paying, flag-waving, productive conservative and I approve of this message.
     
  6. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    In case you guys missed it, the majority of the republicans are against this bail out, and very few of them are on any finance/housing committees. I have only heard McCain's expressed purpose in going back to Washington is to help wrangle the Republican support for this bill or any bill and get something done this week. It's called bi-partisan support. Something McCain has delivered most of his career and will deliver this time as well. Obama has spoken at length about this but certainly made no effort in this case to bring the two parties together.

    Sounds like several of you feel this is merely a political stunt on McCain's part. I saw a poll last night that a whole 11% of the country agrees with you and the rest believe he is doing his duty as a US Senator. Kind of puts your cries in perspective for me.

    As to delaying the debate(if it happens), Obama was in no hurry to answer questions this summer in any town hall meetings, so I am unimpressed with his expressed urgency now. He is ahead in the polls, the economy is uppermost in voters mind, he wants to press his advantage, and that is the only reason he wants to proceed without moving it a whole 5 days. You guys act as if the debates are happening on election day and you won't have time to decide? No, that's not accurate, you are worried about the poor electorate that is undecided and isn't getting a fair picture of the candidates, right?

    Well here is a clue for you. The undecided voters at this stage are considered to be the most unencumbered, free-thinking of the whole bunch. Either they will get enough information to convince them about a candidate, or they won't vote for him. It's really that simple. Any of you crying over media access, or pushing this debate because Obama wants to push his advantage, are merely looking for sound bytes. If you feel it's going to piss off voters, then you don't need to worry about it, because they will vote for your candidate instead.

    If it turns out McCain/Palin don't give a clear enough picture of themselves, the voters will not elect them, so you should probably just relax and let them run their campaign into the ground. The feigned outrage is ridiculous.
     
  7. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    At least learn to spell grammar before correcting someone on theirs.
     
  8. Bengal Buddy

    Bengal Buddy Founding Member

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    Point well taken.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Yeah, I'd like to see that poll.

    This morning, ABC News/Washington Post released a new poll showing Obama opening up a 9% lead over McCain, the largest lead by either candidate at any point in the race.

     
  10. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    Well I did see it quoted on the news so I will look to find it. However it was a poll about McCain going to Washington, not the overall race. And it doesn't change the fact that Obama had zero interest in garnering support for the bail out or amending it by actually doing the job he currently holds. As far as his campaign, it's probably the right thing to do, but as far as the bi-partisanship he has preached all summer, it's sadly lacking.

    The poll you listed is one poll of many and is not the largest lead by either candidate in one poll. The USA/Gallup poll at the beginning of the month had McCain at +10, so your proclamation is not only skewed, but incorrect. The RCP average is Obama +3.2, which is about what both candidates have had either way, all year. Gallup and Rasmussen are usually given more weight because of a lack of bias, and they show a tie and a +3 lead for Obama. Obama is clearly leading but the polling data on this latest dustup has not been factored in. We won't see that until Monday or Tuesday.

    Nice try at skewing things completely away from my previous post though.
     

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