Why Jesus wouldn't vote for Obama

Even if these stories are complete bull what is wrong with including language in a bill that says aborted babies that survive the abortion cannot be disgarded with medical waste?

What is so terrible about this? What personal freedom is being denied? How is the right to murder babies being encroached on by saying that the 1 in million baby that survives one of these procedures deserves better than being left to die in a lennin closet?

 

Best thing I've heard you say:grin:

 

Seriously , and USM this is mainly for you. The more I think about it the more I can actually see your point. It does seem a little crazy for babies to be left in a closet but stranger things have happened. The point is its neither her nor there and the fact is, some of these babies do actually have the strength to fend off the first attempt on thier lives by the murderous scoundrels and are actually born alive. Thats the bottom line. If you were sentenced to die and the electric chair malfunctioned I'd be you ten bucks to a bucket of crap you'd be screaming about you had your chance MF'er now I'm free. Its only fair that it works in reverse.

 

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Are you saying what Obama opposed was the right of a surviving baby to not be left in a closet to die? I really find that hard to believe. I really imagine what he opposed was other language that infringed on less despicable abortion rights.

 

This could've happened somewhere in the world, yes. However, this ladies story does not add up.

Well, where was her proof? Two women who are anti-abortion activist versus the word of scores of nurses, janitors, and doctors. Hmmmm...

Applying common sense is not dodging questions.

Again, testimony by two anti-abortion activists. That is farrrrr from being impartial. And why did they only think to bring this up during a voting session? Did I mention I have a bridge for sale?

People believe that 9/11 was a Bush conspiracy, despite the leaps in common sense.

Don't care.

Just like these two women did, eh?

Then why were no charges brought against the hospital? Oh yeah, no evidence to back up their story.

It is not possible to cover up a systematic practice like this in a laundry room. There are too many people in and out of them. The people that do the laundry are usually not even hospital employees! They are 3rd party vendors, like Aramark. Why would they help a cover up?

You are looking through this with rose colored glasses. You think it is true because you want it to be true. However, an impartial observer would see that there are too many logical loopholes in their stories to be true. ANYONE who has worked in a hospital would spot this as being BS almost instantly. Not the question of whether this occurs somewhere in someway, but in this specific instance described by these two nutcases.

A conspiracy involving that many people, most of who would be not directly responsible, would crack under pressure from the law. There would be SOME evidence of this, whether first or second hand. In this case, it is two activists testimony, which was ONLY offered during a voting session on an abortion bill, against the scores of other nurses, and an Attorney General.

Hmmmmmm, who to believe.....

 

I agree 100%. Any baby surviving an abortion should have full human rights and protections. That's not what I have been arguing against.

I'm simply saying that these two women were making things up in order to try to influence a vote.

 

Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. I don't think anyone here is really arguing against that.

 

No you aren't.

Well, I wouldn't imagine this happens very often... I don't know what happens to them. Hopefully if they can live, and aren't mangled beyond hope, then they are cared for.

I know you don't.

I don't have to prove anything. Common sense is on my side.

Your source on this? Where's your proof? Any stories or studies you can link to that back up this claim? Didn't think so... Most hospitals do not even perform abortions unless the mother's life its at stake. Also, do you really think abortions are so difficult as to have them fail so often? To have this scenario, it would have to be a late term abortion, which is rare, and then a botched abortion, which is also rare. How can this happen "all of the time"?

Usually parents do that. I protect my innocent baby.

Fine. That's not what I was discussing, but I'll agree.

No, it's probably religious or moral. That's cool. Nothing wrong with that.

He sure does.