Funny you should mention that: Premature baby 'comes back to life' The article earlier today said the woman was suffering from internal bleeding and they had to perform an abortion. It seems they've changed the verbage, but regardless, pretty miraculous if you ask me.
I was wondering when someone was going to start this thread. They have obama dead to rights on this one. Rex, you can get all huffed up and spew what you want to but its fact. Documented and there for public record. 3 times he voted against it. He said he wanted it to mirror the federal bill and after they re-wrote it verbatim to the FB he voted against it again. I can't even call him a man anymore. He has no conscience and there is a special place in hell for him.
Obama believes the question of when life begins is difficult to answer. Is it at conception and can that be proven scientifically? Are there any cases in which abortion should be legal, such as in the case where the life or health of the mother is at stake or in the case of rape? Red has said that abortion is only legal in the first trimester, with exceptions for the mother's health and rape. I don't know if this is true or not. I believe you are overstating Obama's support of abortion. It's really hard to point to votes cast, when bills can have complicated and tricky wording that can lump many things together. If some parts of a bill are unacceptable to a representative, should that representative ignore those parts because of the parts that could be used by opponents to cast doubt on his political record?
Yes....it's all so subtle, and complex....far too much for the average non-Ivy league proletariat to comprehend... Bull. Sh!t. His votes reflect either his thinking or his desire to pander to his base (the loony left) - or both. Either way, it's a fair label to pin to him. In fact, he pinned it on himself.
The language of most bills damns you either way unless you strongly agree or strongly disagree. I imagine you don't read most bills, and I'm not saying that you couldn't. I'm just saying that the language in most bills make it easy to disagree with parts, which can then be construed by opponents as disagreeing with the entire thing. Your attitude is part of the reason things can't be resolved with civility, and frankly, I don't think Jesus would approve. Jesus wouldn't appreciate the partisan bullsh!t that many here are pushing.
Over half of the people in this country have legitimate concerns that the rights of a living human mother are not of less concern that the rights of a single fertilized cell in her own body-- because of some other persons religious convictions. For you not to recognize that Obama represents the majority view on this matter is disingenuous. Right-wing spin. Nobody is advocating "abortionists rights" other than the right for medical doctors not to be bombed and shot by right-wing anti-abortion terrorists for doing nothing illegal. This is a democracy, you don't vote with sniper rifles and pipe bombs. People should elect their Congressmen to support their idea on this domestic social issue. Anyone who votes for President of the United States of America on this or any other single issue that he basically has no control over . . . just . . . doesn't . . . get it.
First trimester abortions are not in question here. These bills dealt with late term abortions in which the baby survived the abortion. This particular issue has nothing to do with choice and everything to do with not valuing life. The mother got her abortion. Why are living fetusees cast aside as medical waste. Sure they have next to no chance at survival, but don't they deserve to die with a little dignity and not among soiled lennins. Obama like many of his ultra-liberal colleagues is not pro-choice he is pro-abortion. I'd bet he is pro-cancer too.
The issue here is NOT abortion, or at least its the way I read it. Its what to do with a baby that somehow makes it through the abortion process and is born ALIVE. There is no grey area here, you have a live, heart beating human. The issue is do you give him/her the medical attention that they deserve or do you side with the savior of the democratic party and let it die in a linen closet. o: