Why is everyone crying about the Rebel Flag.............

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Got a hint for you guys.....there ain't no winning on this debate---no matter what side you take. Both have good points...BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT...It all boils down to you either taking some more of "Po me has been so mistreated," Or you take a stand. I doubt seriously some stink wouldn't really fall if certain people started DEMANDING a WBS. Or a more even percentage of white/black team members. (Now wouldn't that be a different outlook toward diversification?) You just have to make a choice. The way I see it---what's best for LSU....You decide.....

 

I do realize that I'm a little late with this post since I haven't been on here in a few days, but for what it's worth...

To Frogleg:
My grammar didn't need correcting. "Don't" is a contraction of "do" and "not". "Doesn't" is a contraction of "does" and "not". In my original post the word in question is describing the feelings. "Feelings" is plural, and therefore you would say "feelings do not matter" or "feelings don't matter", and NOT "feelings does not matter" or "feelings doesn't matter". You would use "does not" when talking of a singular feeling. In that instance you would say that a "feeling does not matter" or a "feeling doesn't matter". But that's not what I said, now is it? And in fact you would never use "Dosen't matter" as you suggest, since "dosen't" isn't a word in the English language.

Believe it or not I actually tested high enough in the Language/Grammar section of the ACT to test out of Freshman English, so I think I do okay. I'm not saying my spelling and grammar are always perfect. After all, I did start the last sentence of my prior paragraph with a contraction. I'm only saying that if you're going to correct me, I'd appreciate it if you'd make sure you're correct first. Okay?

Thanks.

 

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Slavery does or has existed in every country in the world, and still exists in some places (especially 3rd world countries where people work for 14 cents an hour and no bathroom breaks).

African tribes to this day own slaves; thats what happens after tribal warfare. African-American's ancestors were sold in to slavery under these same "tribal warfare" rules, by other Africans. Africans are just as much to blame for slavery as the Spaniards that transported them and the Colonials that purchased said slaves.

The Union states as well as the Confederate states owned slaves. The Civil War was fought because the Federal Government of the US wished to force the abolition of slavery onto the Southern States, as well as other rules of law. That amounts to a States Rights issue. The Northern States only a couple years before hand had abolished slavery (some states earlier see Massachuesetts). But they get off scott free for having iniated this change.

Now what does all this have to do with a P&G Confederate flag? Nothing. This is a tactic thrown up by black activist to scare White PC America into thinking that embracing a history, that is scarred with cruelty and violence, is wrong. Having a cause means more media time to promote black ideals while griping and complaining about many issues that minorities have a problem with, giving them a pulpit from which they preach to white america about unfair opression, unequality, et al.

Do they expect Catholics to abandon the Pope because the Crusades and inquisition were allowed to happen? Of course not, even though that is also a very brutal history. One of which (the Crusades), is often seen in many glorious movies and novels. To hell with political correctness.

Can i expect to have all Che Gueveara shirts banned from LSU because the violence and guerillas tactic communism spread by this man? No, and i would never attempt to stop anyone from wearing, flying, saying anything just because i disagreed/misinterpreted it.

Now i understand the position that most are taking, in that, the KKK has made the Conferedate flag its calling card. i assure you that the people that fly this flag see it as either a racist ideal or as Southern Heritage. But irregardless of "WHY" they fly that flag, the university cannot just decide that since African Americans feel hurt having to see something that they may be misinterpreting, that is a reason it should be banned. Thats bull**** and unconstitutional.

When a majority of African-Americans (even that label does not promote Unity, when they themselves keep seperate) protested and tried to make a huge deal out of this subject, though practiced infrequently before, has now become a BLACK/ WHlTE issue. The line has been drawn and this further divides this university. Drawing these racial lines in the sand, is akin to trying to put out a match with gasoline.

i know most of the anti flaggers wont agree with me, but "Wait 40 or so years... the flag will most likely die out on its own". if you can't take solace in knowing that our generation will be much different then the last, then i dont know what to tell you.

You may come back with the fact that alot of students in the past few weeks have been flying this flag, but the main reason for this is the division that the protest has caused. People like to piss other people off, especially along a racial divide in the South. Had nothing been done about the few LSU confederate flags being flown around campus, we would probably still see only a few every weekend, but with all the media coverage, LSU will be filled with these for quite some time.

Sorry for the Rant, and No i dont have cliff notes

Posted this on the Rant today, was gonna share my views with all of you, see what you thought.

 

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I asked a black friend of mine about his thoughts on this.

He said the flag never bothered him in the past, but that at the North Texas football game, a white guy a few rows up was yelling, "you ******* coons, **** niggers!" during the game whenever black LSU players would mess up. He said that until that moment it didn't bother him, but he realized that this is what the flag was representing to so many people & it made him mad. He said he still wasn't sure how he felt about actually banning it, but simply said "Ole Miss did it" when I mentioned the freedom of speech.

 

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Your friend should have punched him. How come we don't punch stupid people anymore? I would have punched him if he was saying something about white people. You see that's whats wrong with us today, everyone bottles up their feelings. If more people got punched and more people did some punching, it would be a much better world. :hihi:

 

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i wouldnt have. i dont care about upholding the honor of white people. that is the biggest problem in the world today. people care about their precious tribes. why can't we just be individuals?

and also, those guys calling out the players for being stupid, do you think if a white player had made a mistake they would have yelled "you dumb cracker, you f'ing honkey!"? and if so, would that mean that there was no reason to get mad anymore because these guys just hate everyone? and furthermore, who cares who these guys hate? if they were yelling "blue eyed whites named martin are stupid!", i dont think i would care.

 

I was assuming that if he was saying something about white people, that would make him black. I should have said I would punch a black guy for saying something about white players. I would expect someone to punch me if I was shouting such remarks about black players. There is no black and white with LSU. There is just purple and gold.

 

not me, i dont care what race people are. they are allowed to say whatever they want abot either race. i am an individual, with no special ties to any race or creed or ethnicity that would make me want to defend them from insults by another tribe.

i distance myself from all the labels placed on me against my will at birth.

 

You are truely an interesting person martin. Weird, but interesting.

 

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You're reminding me of that great line in Lonesome Dove, something like, "One thing I can't tolerate is rude behavior in a man." :grin: