Why does the media think Weis is such a great coach?

couldn't possibly be any worst than being a Redsox fan. Maybe being the Starting QB for New England, wearing a NY yankies hat...that might be worst.

 

Damn, Puddin' Pants. I know the sandwich is photoshopped in there, but what about his trousers?


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IT, you are correct that he has lost to EVERY real team that he has played against...every single one. A "very good coach" would find a way to win one of those games every now and then, IMHO. Winning almost all the games that you should have won doesn't constitute being a "very good coach"...it just means that he's a very AVERAGE coach.:thumb:

 

AHAH!!!! You were GAZING at his "toe"!!!! You know what that makes you, right?

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Weiss' claim to fame is that he almost beat USC. Other than that, he hasn't accomplished much. He may have one win over a team that finished in the top 25, and if so they were barely in there.

 

Weis' recognition comes from the fact that he turned around a strugling program both on the field and in the recruiting races. Sound familiar?
You can say what you want about the schedule, but the previous coach couldn't win against the same schedule, and couldn't seem to win any of the recruiting battles that Weis has started to win.

He has not lived up to the hype around him, but to do that he would have had to beat one of the four teams that were heavily favored to against him. As a fan that dissappoints me (although apparently not as much as it does some here), but I still beleive he's done a better job with the program than any one else could have so far.

Furthermore, except for this week, and the Mich. St. game in 2005, he has beaten the teams that ND was supposed to beat. So in 2 years, he's been upset twice, not too bad in my book, especially when the previous coach could not make that claim. At the same time, he's been able to pull off a few upsets (Michigan, & Tennessee-2005, and Penn St in 06).

I can't think of any coaches in my surrounding area that have won a game against incredible odds. A win against a team that obviously had more talent. Certainly can't think of any coaching at any of the state universities. The coach at my alma mata has done a good job, but I don't think he's one any games that, based on talent, he shouldn't have won.
But then again, I'm no expert on local football programs. Perhaps someone will educate me.

 

That is a reflection of the previous coach, not of the current one. Weiss has had some big time recruits, but his entire classes haven't been quite as good as many seem to think. And his success on the field? Well, it certainly hasn't been bad, but getting into 2 BCS bowls was not based on how good of a team he was fielding.

Of course Michigan & Tennessee ended up having terrible seasons, but he did get a lot of credit for those wins at the time. Penn St was actually a good win for him.

 

Bayou Irish...I disagree with you that he has "turned around" ND. They haven't "turned around" yet. Like Cparso said...he beat Michigan and Tennessee, but so what...they weren't good either. No doubt that most don't remember that...but they do remember Reggie Bush pushing Matt Leinhart into the endzone to BEAT ND...and that is Weiss' greatest...er...win. Every time the media tries to make excuses for ND, they point to that game...like they won or something.

My only point is this. Not just in this thread, but in several...as well as in the media...I keep hearing what a great coach Weiss is. I just wish people would quit giving him that title...until he proves it. He has not proven it yet. I have no idea if he ever will, and frankly, could care less. But he hasn't proven it yet. Maybe you can tell me why Weiss is a great HEAD coach in CFB. I wish someone could explain it to me.

By the way, his recognition comes from the NFL, as an assistant. It comes from nothing he has done at ND. He was a "great coach" the moment he signed on the dotted line with ND.:dis:

 

Sup Bayou. I'll give you my take on it, and given our rapport, I trust you'll understand, it is respectfully submitted.

Turned around?? They haven't hit bottom yet imo.

And he was fired too, but Weis won't be cause for him to be fired would mean that Notre Dame is like every other college and they won't admit to that.

Therein lies the problem, it's the hype, undeserved ranking(s), BCS bowl appearances through sweet BCS deals, pissing on college football fans' backs and tellin us it's raining. The fact that ND is going to have to come to the realization that they're not only not any better than the top tier, they're the pits- at least right now- is a breath of fresh air for many.

It's definitely been quieter without ol bitterweed's desparaging comments along racial and academic lines, for starters. Not to mention Holtz having to swallow his dentures now too. :hihi:

So, essentially, he hasn't done chit....in tangible terms, anyway. He sucks imo. I'll site his snapping the ball to the upback, on 4th-and-3 from their own 34-yard line, early in the Sugar Bowl. What a TERRIBLE call against our defense and what kind of message did he send to his kids- he told them they were in trouble right there. I thought that was a terrible call and I'm not saying, in isolation, that one bad call defines a coach; however, it gave me a snapshot to the kind of approach he probably uses with his players. Tear 'em down type instead of building them up.

You can take an "Average" athlete and tell him he's great and he'll play "Above average"; conversely, you can take a great one and beat him down and he'll never play up to his potential.

Upsets happen every weekend, the "Best" team doesn't nearly always win. These "Underdogs" don't run around the country tootin their horns either. Not only GT this weekend, Clemson, Arky St. beat Texas everywhere but on the scoreboard, need I bring up Michigan again.


I feel for you man, I remember the days and we've been blessed at LSU as of lately but, though I feel for you, no love for majority of ND fans.

 

Where to begin?

First of all, I appologize if I've mislead anyone into thinking that I believe Weis is a great college coach. Perhaps I would be clearer if I said that he is by far the best coach for ND since Holtz.

Second, if you don't recognize that the ND football program is better shape than it has been in the last 10+ years, then you certainly won't appreciate my opinion of Charlie Weis. There are deffinite signs of improvement. No, they are no where near "there", but they undeniably closer today than before he got to South Bend. I can appreciate that no one here gives a rat's a** about that, but I'm simply offering it as an explanation of why a media that is infatuated w/ ND would also become biased towards Weis.

Finally, I don't have any input or control on what the media does with Notre Dame. I must admit though, it is one of the things that drew me to ND. While it obiously is the root of your disdain for the irish, I enjoy the way it upsets people around here. If it weren't for the media hype, what else would keep me hanging around here?