I've read several books about the Allied liberation of France....mostly D-Day by Steven Ambrose and I know they contributed. Would have been nice if they had contributed on the front end by keeping Germany out. Maybe then we wouldn't have had to have lost 3,000 men at Normandy and countless others along the march to Berlin.
You exaggerate, of course. The French Air Force was heavily involved with the bombing during Desert Shield. The French Army did its part in Desert Storm serving in the US XVIII Corps. But French capabilities and actions is beside the point. You had said that the French had NEVER come to our aid. The fact is that they did. They served under American commanders in a shooting war in Iraq in 1991. They did what Swartzkopft tasked them with. They may have been slow arriving, but they were there when the war started and they stayed until the end.
I didn't say never. Read back........I said when have they come to our aid as a "powerful" ally as you described? I mean to where the job could not have been done without them. That is powerful. The answer is never. Now, when have we come to their aid as a powerful ally when the job could have been done by them alone? Never. We always have to be there to finish the job for anyone else and especially the French.......that's a protector. You see?
I read a book about the Maginot Line recently, and interestingly it pointed out that the Maginot line was never the military failure that it has become synonymous for. It was intended to prevent the Germans from invading France through the Mountans of the south and force them to attack through the northern plain, where a very large French army stood. The Maginot line did that job perfectly, it was the French field army that failed and gave way before Blitzkrieg tactics. Then the French government quickly surrendered when it looked like the fight might reach Paris. But the garrisons in the Maginot line were never defeated and had many months of supplies to withstand a siege. If the French army had retreated to the mountains they might have withstood the German advance, but the politicians were unwilling for Paris to be abandoned, so they surrendered. The Maginot line garrisons did not give up until their government abandoned them.
I've never really read anything specific on how France lost. I assumed it was by getting steamrolled under battalians of tanks like everybody else in Europe. I love reading WWII books........some guys love the Civil War.....I love WWII. Looks like you do too.
Nope, I never mentioned the swedes. I've never been around them. The swiss army, in the balkans, built very beautiful wooden buildings everywhere they went and the swiss, not the swedes, guard the vatican. See ridiculously dressed people below. EDIT....Sorry red, I did call them swedish. You're right, I meant swiss. Like I said, I've never been around the swedes. Wouldn't you just love to wear this uniform? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Michalangelo (sp) designed those uniforms. I read those Swiss guards at the Vatican are pretty bad ass.
Don't believe everything you read. They're swiss, so by default, they're punks. The regular swiss army is worthless. Trust me on that one. I've been to rome twice, and I found the swiss guards there to be no better than the regulars. JMO.
Now where have I seen that faggoty Euro, cheese-eating, Pepe le Pew black beret? Oh yeah, our friggin' Army has started wearing them! Bring back the overseas cap, for heavens sake!
about a year ago, my old man and i were visiting family at fort bragg. people all over the place were wearing the black beret. my dad, a military man himself, went off like a lunatic about how terrible the berets are. my brother in law, who himself is a former green beret wasnt fond of them either. they do look stupid and i cant see the point of looking like a artsy french ****. personally i wont wear a hat without a bill.
