"Providing health care for every American" is a socialistic ideal. Making statements about how the rich make too much money and don't pay enough taxes.... is a socialistic ideal. Remember the term "bourgeoisie"? It's right out of the Communist Manifesto. :nope:
Nonsense. "Providing health care for every American" is an ideal for any Superpower. We shouldn't have impoverished people here. It would only be socialism if all the doctors and hospitals were owned by The People. It is not so and no one is proposing that. A National Health Insurance policy that includes the insurance industry and allows citizens to go to the private doctor or hospital of their choice is no way close to socialism. Right wing idealists throw the word around without bothering to understand it. I don't think the rich make too much money. I'm all for capitalism. But the rich have made the most benefit from our democratic system, they control the most wealth, and it buys them the most power and influence. And they don't pay enough taxes.
I don't think the definition of socialism needs to include government-owned health care providers, especially if our tax dollars are going to be increased to pay for this plan. If there is a "National Health Insurance" company, paid for out of my tax dollars, then that is socialism. Right out of Marx's handbook. I guess the name "Red" is appropriate here. :nope:
The plan would involve private insurers, just like Bush's Medicare Prescription Health Plan. No national company. Never heard that one before. :rolleye33: You are so clever. Chapter? Verse? Marx believed in a capitalist economy, as I just stated? Alright, you caught me. It's true. I have portraits of Marx and Lennon in my office. You can't lick this team.
It's a slippery slope, Red. You see, with national plans such as this, the private insurers have to follow federally mandated guidelines for minimum levels of coverage regardless of actuarial risk. Think Medicare Part D, NPI, CCHIT... federal mandates which suck the life and productivity out of private insurers. One could also make the argument that these federal mandates drive rates up and make them less affordable. It's thinly disguised socialism.
not after 8 years of a liberal in the WH and liberal control of both houses.:thumb: i know, it smarts. the good news is none of y'all are rich enough (a guess) to be negatively affected by obama's tax plan.
