Who’s a better coach Brady or Tubby?

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  1. olVENICEdog

    olVENICEdog Founding Member

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    IM not saying that Tubby's not a good coach wild mike. I just think that KU was in WAAAY better shape when he took over then when Brady took LSU over. I think he has done great since RP left. He continued to recruit top-notch players and as you pointed out has a great record. I am not taking anything away from him.

    I think that of all coaches in the SEC, CJB has raised the bar and is now running neck and neck w/KU and Tubby, this year. I only see LSU getting better. If Brady keeps getting these guys to come to LSU he will soon do something nice come tournament time. Even when LSU had CJ and Shaq they weren’t considered a basketball school. KU has been considered a basketball school for a looong time. Getting a head-coaching job at KU is like winning the Lottery. For reasons unknown to man better players come out of Kentucky. I think given all the circumstances surrounding Brady he has done a great job. For him to be in the position that he is now tells me that he is a better coach then tubby.

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  2. WildcatMike

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    KU=Kansas
    UK=Kentucky

    Tubby with LSU talent this year=National Championship

    Keep in mind, Tubby went undefeated in SEC with mid-major talent (Finch, Daniel, Hayes, etc). Tubby has won with major talent. A great coach can win with what he has...Has Brady done that?

    Not knocking on Brady for his effort this year, but any coach had the LSU talent on the floor probably would only have 3 or less loses to this point or be undefeated). In my opinion, Bruce Pearl is hands down coach of the year in the SEC...less talent and he is getting as much out of the players as he can.

    Let's see what John Brady does when Davis, Tas, and Thomas leave for the NBA...medicore? Let's see what Brady puts on the court when Butch leaves for a prime time program or for a head position job...willing to bet recruting takes a hit. Possible Tubby Smith will let go an assistant (Rigot), don't you think Tubby would not call Butch and pay him well for his services as recruiting cordinator and assistant coach?:wink:

    Sweet 16 with Stro was ok....having a great year to this date...Question to you, what has he done in the past? :shock:

    Keep in mind, Kentucky is still not out of the SEC East (or overall) race. UK pulls off a W against UF and UT (in Rupp), watch out. The game in Baton Rouge may come down to who takes it all.
     
  3. Tiger1958

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    UK is not even ranked in the top 25 this year. That is very sad for a traditional power house of basketball. Tell me about Tennessee, Did we beat them this year?

    Give credit where credit is due.
     
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    As much as I like JB, this isn't even close. I don't care if Tubby has won with superior talent or not, the proof is in the pudding.
     
  5. WildcatMike

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    Sorry to disagree with you. Pearl with LSU talent would win. A great coach would not have lost too many games with the talent of Davis, Thomas, and Tas. I stand by my opinion, Pearl is more deserving than Brady (not taking anything from Brady success this year)…Pearl has taken less and made them into winners (by the way, I can not stand Pearl, I think he is a snake).

    Would not worry about UK…seem to be improving, they knock off the Gators in the O Dome; I am willing to bet they will get back in the top 25. I have a feeling they will win a few in the NCAA…as well as LSU.
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  6. Tiger1958

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    Pearl walked out of Assembly Center with his tail stuck between his leg. UK basketball is below average until R. Morris came back. Tubby = Shady huh.
     
  7. gumborue

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    what's with so many people saying LSU has tons more talent than anyone else. ku has three highly talented players--and thats just off the top of my head. im sure there are more==rondo, crawford and morris. also, when ku's previous "untalented" teams are brought up it makes me puke. they did not overacheive. they were very good players that stuck around--i'd much prefer four years of a garrett temple to one year of a tyrus thomas, for example.

    bama has similar talent to LSU too. davidson, hendrix, steele and the other freshman guard (not to mention a very athletic brock). of course there's UF. btw, cjb is doing better to date than tub, gottfried and donovan with similar talent. much if not all those similarly talented teams have more experience too.
     
  8. WildcatMike

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    Not going to rehash the Morris situation...I felt I have beaten that orse to death.

    Please, would it look right to type LSU as USL?

    KU=Kansas
    UK=Kentucky

    No inside game (without Morris) and shots not falling would cause an instable team. Morris is back in the groove...Since moving Sparks to the point and Rondo is the wing...they won 5 in a row...Does that mean we will win the SEC...Doubt it. LSU will probably win vs. UK...way too much talent. I am serious when I say LSU and UK mirror each other but with more talent. Both stress the D and at time will pound the ball in the paint. Both teams started off shooting poorly from the 3 and free throws…both teams a greatly improving in those areas.

    To say UK has better talent is ridiculous…LSU has far better talent. Over time, UK talent will and has improved.

    Rondo at the time is NBA ready (still one year away). Morris still needs work…Joe Crawford is far from thinking of the NBA.
    LSU has Davis, Thomas, and Tas, much more NBA ready (1st round)...So yes, LSU has more talent in the SEC!

    Great discussion whether Brady is considered as the best in the SEC…Yu would have to consider Billy D, Tubby, and as much I hate Pearl, he is at this time SEC Coach of the year. I am going on past success; Brady barley passes the middle of the pack of SEC coach level.

    Wonder what the outcome of UT vs. LSU would be on a neutral court...Trust me, I am a LSU supporter as well as UK...Hate Tenn. with a passion, but they are rolling on all cylinders. Not discounting what LSU did to them on they're home court...certainly not want to face them in the SEC Tourney...the results may be different!

    I will stand by my opinion…Brady has his moments…is he consistent? Has shown me anything besides a sweet 16 and a couple of flame outs in the big dance? Has had the talent to go deeper but has not. I feel he has one hell of a recruiter that sits next to him on the bench…Butch is the key of Brady’s success.

    Remember, a lot of posters including some giving him praises to this date wanted his head and his rear out the door. Amazing what winning games could do for a coach…are you going to stand behind him if the team loses down the stretch (schedule is going to get tougher)? :geauxtige Go Big Blue!
     
  9. WildcatMike

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    Not going to rehash the Morris situation...I felt I have beaten that horse to death.:dis:

    Please, would it look right to type LSU as USL?

    KU=Kansas
    UK=Kentucky

    No inside game (without Morris) and shots not falling would cause an instable team. Morris is back in the groove...Since moving Sparks to the point and Rondo is the wing...they won 5 in a row...Does that mean we will win the SEC...Doubt it. LSU will probably win vs. UK...way too much talent. I am serious when I say LSU and UK mirror each other but with more talent. Both stress the D and at time will pound the ball in the paint. Both teams started off shooting poorly from the 3 and free throws…both teams a greatly improving in those areas.

    To say UK has better talent is ridiculous…LSU has far better talent. Over time, UK talent will and has improved.

    Rondo at the time is NBA ready (still one year away). Morris still needs work…Joe Crawford is far from thinking of the NBA.
    LSU has Davis, Thomas, and Tas, much more NBA ready (1st round)...So yes, LSU has more talent in the SEC!

    Great discussion whether Brady is considered as the best in the SEC…Yu would have to consider Billy D, Tubby, and as much I hate Pearl, he is at this time SEC Coach of the year. I am going on past success; Brady barley passes the middle of the pack of SEC coach level.

    Wonder what the outcome of UT vs. LSU would be on a neutral court...Trust me, I am a LSU supporter as well as UK...Hate Tenn. with a passion, but they are rolling on all cylinders. Not discounting what LSU did to them on they're home court...certainly not want to face them in the SEC Tourney...the results may be different!

    I will stand by my opinion…Brady has his moments…is he consistent? Has shown me anything besides a sweet 16 and a couple of flame outs in the big dance? Has had the talent to go deeper but has not. I feel he has one hell of a recruiter that sits next to him on the bench…Butch is the key of Brady’s success.

    Remember, a lot of posters including some giving him praises to this date wanted his head and his rear out the door. Amazing what winning games could do for a coach…are you going to stand behind him if the team loses down the stretch (schedule is going to get tougher)? :geauxtige Go Big Blue!
     
  10. WildcatMike

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    Not going to rehash the Morris situation...I felt I have beaten that horse to death.:dis:

    Please, would it look right to type LSU as USL?

    KU=Kansas
    UK=Kentucky

    No inside game (without Morris) and shots not falling would cause an instable team. Morris is back in the groove...Since moving Sparks to the point and Rondo is the wing...they won 5 in a row...Does that mean we will win the SEC...Doubt it. LSU will probably win vs. UK...way too much talent. I am serious when I say LSU and UK mirror each other but with more talent. Both stress the D and at time will pound the ball in the paint. Both teams started off shooting poorly from the 3 and free throws…both teams a greatly improving in those areas.

    To say UK has better talent is ridiculous…LSU has far better talent. Over time, UK talent will and has improved.

    Rondo at the time is NBA ready (still one year away). Morris still needs work…Joe Crawford is far from thinking of the NBA.
    LSU has Davis, Thomas, and Tas, much more NBA ready (1st round)...So yes, LSU has more talent in the SEC!

    Great discussion whether Brady is considered as the best in the SEC…You would have to consider Billy D, Tubby, and as much I hate Pearl, he is at this time SEC Coach of the year. I am going on past success; Brady barley passes the middle of the pack of SEC coach level.

    Wonder what the outcome of UT vs. LSU would be on a neutral court...Trust me, I am a LSU supporter as well as UK...Hate Tenn. with a passion, but they are rolling on all cylinders. Not discounting what LSU did to them on home court...certainly not want to face them in the SEC Tourney...the results may be different!

    I will stand by my opinion…Brady has his moments…is he consistent? Has shown me anything besides a sweet 16 and a couple of flame outs in the big dance? Has had the talent to go deeper but has not. I feel he has one hell of a recruiter that sits next to him on the bench…Butch is the key of Brady’s success.

    Remember, a lot of posters including some giving him praises to this date wanted his head and his rear out the door. Amazing what winning games could do for a coach…are you going to stand behind him if the team loses down the stretch (schedule is going to get tougher)? :geauxtige Go Big Blue!
     

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