Whatever you say Tigermark, theres people that agree with me around here whether anyone likes it or not. I noticed after all of my posts, especially after the somewhat neutral look at things you point that out. I could find something in 1 of your posts and make that kind of point you did about me. Lets talk about what has happened the last month, your kidding yourself if you think this team is anything like they were a month ago with some of your examples. Let imagine that Shawnee Johnson and some of Bradys recruits that have left were still here.... Lloreda gets hurt and leaves the team then some of these other players steps in and help pick up the slack and soften the blow and maybe Bass takes off and we're able to compete. What some of you don't think about is Brady has gambled on recruiting some of these kids with rap sheets and it hasn't worked out. It is hurting the program and Brady, I wish some of those players were here but thier not. If anythings to be learned I hope we learn that you can put all your trust and rely on a guy like Lloreda so much because more times than not he will let you down. TE has been right all along. We don't have depth and its not all about probation, look at how many players have left the program. Its not unusual for a few players to leave but LSU has lost too many and it shows Thanks for the help twisted tiger, thank god I'm not alone
Quote by "Sour"doughman, "What some of you don't think about is Brady has gambled on recruiting some of these kids with rap sheets and it hasn't worked out." Backup those rap sheets with some facts. I have proved you wrong with facts. Prove me wrong with some facts. Until then, STFU!!!!!
I don't have to prove about Lloreda or Johnson, its known facts you haven't proved me wrong so back up your facts Go Ahead, Please.... Prove everything I say is wrong including Bradys comments yesterday.. some of you are UNREAL btw i tried to use a football analogy and i was criticized for it so i'm waiting to see if the same people that criticized me for that will criticize you... Your the Sour one in your attitude and it shows to anyone that reads your post... I've just stated facts on my threads
Quote: Originally Posted by MiketheTiger Sourghdoughman, By the way, Lloreda didn't just get hurt, but he QUIT on his team. He could have been the bigger man and been there for his teammates and give moral support on the bench. Tell me how many people have had a star player quit this close to the end of the season. You will say that Brady shouldn't have recruited him. I will say that any person that did the things he has done would have done it on any team. It's the player, not the coach. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- response by Jwho77 No, I'm sorry. It's the coach. Signing problem guys like Lloreda, Ford, and Minor along with recruiting mistakes like Bridgewater and Whipple are a coach' fault. Failure to recruit a good point guard (NOTE: Torris Bright was not a point guard but Brady tried to make him one for 4 years) is a coach's fault. Having an average of 2 players per season THAT YOU SIGNED quit on your program is both abnormal and a coach's fault. I ALWAYS want the Tigers to win. I still want them in the dance. But, I know we are selling LSU basketball short with John Brady. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I noticed you didn't respond to this thread you only pick and choose to respond and attack me....
First of all, I don't have any "heat" to take. I'm just a fan. LSU's losing does not affect me one way or the other. I chose not to read most the posts after the loss to USC because I figured it would be the usual blather from the anti Brady day care center...and I was, as usual, correct. Sourdough, you are like a young tree. Whichever way the wind blows, that's the way you lean. You have gone back and forth so many times on the Brady issue that it's safe to say that no one knows what your real feelings are. And about Sabertooth "getting" me? That's hardly the case. I have been a staunch Brady supporter from day one and calling me out for it is not a "gotcha". I chew up and spit out amateurs like you guys on a regular basis. Stay in the minors, kid. You've got to be able to hit the curve ball at this level. And one more thing. I've been out of school for over 30 years and I can still write and I can still spell.
I know your perfect, your always correct and never wrong so lets just leave it at that. I like you and everyone here so thats all I'm going to say but I haven't gone back and forth like the wind and I would like people to prove points like that instead of making accusations....
So, should the players that Brady "gambled" on be here or not? This is what I am talking about. Don't try to take both sides of the issue. First you say that you don't want these clowns here and then you say that you do. Which is it. See, I don't have to look through everyone of your posts to find something inconsistant. Sure the character of the recruits has sucked at times. But I contend that beggars can't be choosers. Our program was in the dirt and NO ONE wanted to come here. Maybe he took some chances and he failed. So what. That is life and that is HIS job. Maybe he is a nut case driving players away. That is the kind of thing that we as fans can't know. We are not in a position to know that. Is he a nut case or is he a rare gem of a diciplinarine (how in the heck do you spell that?)? Let Skip decide that. That is his job. At least he booted/forced the trouble makers the off the team when they would not toe the line. These recruits KNOW what Brady is like when they sign on the bottom line. They know what they are getting into. If they don't like it, so be it. TE bitches and complains about him not kicking Lloreda off of the team, but I am willing to give Brady some slack there because he has proven in the past that he won't put up with bad apples and ego problems. There must be more to this Lloreda stuff than the rumors and such that TE puts up. Anyway, his recruiting has been suspect in the past, but this year's recruits look pretty good. Maybe LSU is to the point where Brady does not feel that he has to take character chances to be able to compete. Sure surprises me to see Minor on the court still. Will he be here next year? Anyway. Focus on what we see on the court. What we see is an under achieving team that is thin on talent. What we see are players that don't look like they are playing up to their potential. Bet you think I am in favor of keeping Brady another season? Well, I am really close to saying fire his ass outright. I would not be upset at all to see him go. Up until this 7 game stretch I was leaning on his side. Now, I can pretty much say that this team is in shambles (and it was not before Lloreda got hurt). Brady ball has never been a stable situation, but something happened to this team and Brady is responsible. Win the NIT, and I say give him another year. If not... well, let Skip decide. But for goodness sake, don't keep posting the same thing over and over again. :wink:
Tigermark, I understand what your saying however I was trying to prove the point that if we had some of the players that left the program because of problems or less character issues the blow of losing Lloreda wouldn't have been as bad. I don't think from now on any of these kinds of kids should be recruited do you? The sanctions haven't hurt us near as badly as all the players that have left this program, that is a fact! Have we as fans and a program learned anything from the bad taste left in our mouths from the Shawnee Johnsons and Jaime Lloredas of the world? Can we put as much trust and responsibilities on these types of kids? Can anyone answer these questions honestly without attacking me? I doubt it My statement about those players being here is wishful thinking, I wish things were different, that is all, like more depth and we wouldn't be having this conversation. The truth is this team is thin on talent because of how many players that have left? along with sanctions
Five freshmen was the excuse this year. Brady said this week having 4 seniors last year was a sign of weakness because all good players left after freshman or soph year. He wants it both ways. This guy is a joke and no major college would hire him. He needs to get a job as a bouncer at the Gold Club.
Why am I not surprised that that's where guys like you go for female companionship. "Hey baby, look at me, I am a manly man, I have a dollar bill, show me how manly I am."
