Politics Where are we going?

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by Winston1, Apr 17, 2018.

  1. GiantDuckFan

    GiantDuckFan O the Joy

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    everyone else is usually right,.. but don't worry Trump now has garnered almost 7% of the black vote
     
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  3. Winston1

    Winston1 Veteran Member

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    You are totally nuts. I never mentioned Trump. In fact he has had nothing to do with it. You on the other hand are a perfect reflection of the ugly nativist strain that has infected our society since the beginning. I’m sure you’ld have been railing against the heathen Irish in the 1850s and the WOP dago bastards a little later. If you were a yankee you’ll curse the square head germans and the bohunks (figure out who they are idiot). You and other like you know nothing and forget everything about where you came from. Even a coonass like you claim to be is an immigrant. I would say open your eyes and learn something but that’s not possible. You’re not only willfully blind but willfully ignorant.
     
  4. dachsie

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    I was looking at the medical doctor shortage thing and apparently there are both sides of the argument. There is a predicted shortage because of the amount of baby boomers coming of age but some say the problem is the distribution of the medical doctors. Obviously, rural areas have a lack of care because most docs stick with bigger towns and cities. THis is one from a physician which kinda debunks the shortage thing based on numbers:
    https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/891569
     
  5. Winston1

    Winston1 Veteran Member

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    Fair but medical doctors are just a small part of the issue. As I said I work in the oil and gas manufacturing business. There are not nearly enough native born engineers, technicians or other critical personnel to fill the jobs needed and available. Same is true in the computer and software industries. In fact it’s true across the board.
    Likewise skilled trades like carpenter, plumbers and electricians are filled with immigrants mainly because they work...hard and well compared to many youth born here.
    There is also a social and macro economic argument here. To grow we need an influx of new blood. We are not reproducing at a sustainable rate. Without immigrants we would be like Japan. Another thing new people bring is fresh blood, ideas and energy. Yes they bring change....always have. We don’t want to live in the same world our parents did. We want the benefits of change; well you have to understand that there are consequences to every change good and bad. We need the courage to face them and the strength to shape them to the better. To abandon the positives of immigration to the democrats is suicide.
     
  6. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    I think you mean 7 black people.
     
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  7. dachsie

    dachsie Freshman

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    I think some of the problem with skilled trade is because those job dried up. For instance, there is a shortage of welders now because there were no jobs and the older welders are at retirement age. My friends son decided to go to trade school for welding for this reason. I don't oppose legal immigration. But I do think we need to vet who we are allowing in.
     
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  8. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    I knew a guy back in the late 70's who had his own welding rig and made about $60 an hour. I wonder how much they make 40 years later.
     
  9. Kikicaca

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    The Mics, Germans, Bohunks, WOP's and yes us coonasses came here legally Einstien LEGALLY. Massive immigration had its time and place the country was sparsely inhabited at one time. Maybe in the frontier days no one cared about legal immigration and that was fine. Try thinking about the present day America. We dont need nor can afford unbridled immigration but rather can be and should be picky about who we allow to be here. It is YOU who stereotypes not me. From what I hear from you anyone who is against unlimited immigration is a racists who hates Latinos, Irish, Germans, Blacks, Asians, Bohunks and Cajuns. Being for taking care of who is legally here now is for taking care of the Latinos, Irish, Germans, Blacks, Asians, Bohunks and Cajuns. You act like being for American citizens is being just for Anglo Saxons.

    Get your head out of your ass you stereotyping fool.
     
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  10. Winston1

    Winston1 Veteran Member

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    This is my last post on this subject to you caca because you either can’t read or can’t understand. I never said that unlimited immigration leagal or illegal was a goal. You try to distort my words to fulfill you narrow minded vision.
    What I have said that immigration had and is benefiting the country. It has for two hundred plus years and will for two hundred more...... We need fresh blood and fresh ideas. Point out ONE place I advocated for unlimited immigration. You can’t and that shows you’re a liar and a coward who can’t argue the facts.

    People like you who deflect every argument with a call to hatred and rejection are losers and cowards. The great thing about a great majority of immigrants is that the value their opportunity here and work hard to become a true American. You are a coward who’s afraid to compete in the field of life. You want your reward for being here first...or at least before those coming now.

    Life and prosperity in the United States is NOT a zero sum game. That’s what leftists and socialists believe...are you a socialist? We build prosperity not by limiting options and opportunities but by expanding them. A society is like a shark; it keeps swimming or it dies. Closing off immigration is like stopping swimming. You’re all bluster and canned phrases. You can’t make a logical argument and can’t say anything without revealing how weak you are. Try to learn rather than bloviate.
     

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