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  1. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    Oh it very much depends on the set of eyes you view the situation with. Bush is a failed oil tycoon, and we know about Cheney. I'm not one to believe that all ties have been severed. The oil industry is shady, politicians are shady...too strong a shadow of cynicism has been cast.
     
  2. CParso

    CParso Founding Member

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    I believe there is some relationship there, but I doubt Bush makes much of a personal profit from it.
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Escuse me, I just spewed coffee all over my keyboard.

    Succeeding in Business
    In 1986, one would have had to consider Mr. Bush a failed businessman. He had run through millions of dollars of other people's money, with nothing to show for it but a company losing money and heavily burdened with debt. But he was rescued from failure when Harken Energy bought his company at an astonishingly high price. There is no question that Harken was basically paying for Mr. Bush's connections.

    How George Bush made his Millions
    Much has been written over the past month about President George W. Bush’s actions while at Harken Energy. This is, indeed, a significant history: in the early 1990s Bush made hundreds of thousands of dollars in a deal that reeks of the same insider trading and accounting fraud the president now claims to oppose.

    However, the media has paid far less attention to what Bush did with the $850,000 he made through the sale of Harken stock options and the manner in which he transformed that windfall into the $15 million that now constitutes the larger part of his personal fortune. If anything, this story is even more revealing.

    If the Harken deal was a smaller scale version of the accounting scandals at WorldCom, Enron and other firms, Bush’s purchase and sale of the Texas Rangers baseball team reveals other characteristic features of the past several decades of American capitalism: the plundering of public assets for private gain, the confluence of political and economic power, the defrauding of the American people.

    By the time he cashed out in 1998, Bush’s return on his original $600,000 investment in the Rangers was 2,400 percent.


    Oil and The Bush Administration
    It is likely that George W Bush and his allies have received more campaign contributions from oil companies than any other administration in history. All told, data compiled by the nonprofit Center for Responsive Politics show that oil and gas firms donated $1,889,206 to Bush's presidential campaign, making the industry among the top ten special interest contributors to Bush in Election 2000. Individuals connected with the oil industry contributed at least an additional $85,500 to the Bush campaign. The Bush Presidential Inaugural Committee received yet another $ 1 million in contributions from oil and gas firms. The oil and gas industry contributed at least $556,700 to Bush's 1994 and 1998 campaigns for Governor of Texas. Individuals connected with the industry contributed an additional $944,733.

    Of course, George W Bush's was not the only set of campaigns that benefited from the largess of the oil companies. Exxon/Mobil Corp. spent $3,280,216 to influence Congressional and Presidential campaigns from 1995 to 2000. BP/Amoco Corp. spent $2,989,073 during the same period. Occidental Petroleum spent $1,544,774; Texaco Inc. spent $1,272,585.
     
  4. marcmc99

    marcmc99 Founding Member

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    Those are a couple of impressive sources for information, www.wsws.org (World Socialist Website) and www.thirdworldtraveler.com.

    The author of the 3rd world articles wouldn't perhaps be a little biased would he?

    Mark J. Palmer is Director of Wildlife Alive, a subproject of the International Marine Mammal Project. He formerly served as Chairman o: the Sierra Club's Arctic Campaign Steering Committee, helping thwart attempts by then-President George Bush Senior to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil drilling.

    Damn commis.:usaflagwa
     
  5. LSUDeek

    LSUDeek All That She Wants...

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    OWNED! Answer that one, red? Moderate... or socialist?
     
  6. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    Why do you doubt it?

    This is just one of those things that you have to go with your gut on. If he is currently profiting, there is no way in hell you or I would ever find out. It boils down to trust...and that SOB has done exactly nothing to gain mine.
     
  7. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    i dont buy into it at all. i dont think bush cares one bit about personal profits. i don't think any president really does. i think politicians are mostly driven by wanting power, not money, and bush is a special and extremely rare case that isnt nearly as power hungray as the rest.

    i actually believe bush is incredibly genuine by politician standards.
     
  8. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

    Oh man, thank you! I was in need of a hefty, late-afternoon laugh!!!
     
  9. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    it was about time you brought out the smiley and finally relaxed with the stupidity. i think if you want to not be percieved as childish, you should work on getting away from your usual routine of moving away from discussing something to taking shots at the other guy. and a main part of your system is to accuse the other guy of being upset. i have always considered that to be a cheap and dishonest way to do things, because you really are in no position to tell somebody else that they are upset. then baiting them to deny it until they actually sound angry, its just a waste of time, especially with me.

    i am a real humanitarian giving out this sort of advice.
     
  10. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    would you continue to care about money if you were president? i wouldnt. dont yhou agree that politicians generally want to be liked more than they want money? especially really high level politicians?

    clinton for sure didnt care about money, he wanted to be respected and to take a grand and respected position in history.
     

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