<The way I see it there are 2 classes of people in this country. Those that are in power and above us and then there is the rest of us!> Yep. There are two major classes; those behind the Establishment Curtain and the unfavored masses on the outside. Elections alone are not going to change that. <Why the hell should a politician or his family have better priviledges or be treated like royalty?> They do it because they can. Justice Fellowships and Informed Grand Juries could put a stop to it. With help from the equal protection of the laws clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, the Civil Rights people prevailed. It's time for Justice Fellowships to blow the dust off of it and use it today. All the party blather imaginable isn't going to amount to a bag of fart. tgsam
They are always accountable for their actions, just not the actions of those that went before. Bush and Obama are both spenders. If Bill Clintons policies of paying down the debt had been continued, the national debt would be zero now. It's one major reason I was a Hillary supporter. The Clintons are more practical and less idealistic than Obama. Wreckless spending is essential, I would say. :grin: SabanFan said Iraq was under control, this is evidence that suggests that it is not. The difference is that Obama has a plan, is trying to build concensus, and has been working hard at it ever since taking office. It needs time to complete. Bush did nothing about Al Qaida before 9/11 forced his hand. The 9/11 commission is very clear on this. He didn't even retaliate for the USS Cole bombing. Couldn't find time to meet with his terrorism czar, Richard Clark. After 9/11 he sprang into action and I have given him much credit for his early and smart special forces/CIA action in Afghanistan. It almost worked and perhaps would have if he had not been tempted to tach Saddam a thing or two and lost focus. Bush got two entire terms to finish his wars and failed. Obama's plans may be bloated, have too many cooks, and is slow getting started, but they haven't failed yet by any means.
It's the Establishment, man! I knew it. Power to the People, bothers and sisters. Right on! Dropping bombs for peace is like ****ing for virginity. Stop the rising tide of conformity. Tune, in, turn on, drop out. Far out, man.
After 9/11 the game changed. Whether you agree with Bush's actions or not, billions in military spending would have been necessary. A non-military response was not an option. Obama would have taken months to figure out what to do about al qaeda but Bush acted quickly and decisively which is what a President is elected to do. 20/20 hindsight inevitably results in criticism, something the thin-skinned Obama is not equipped to handle.
You have no sense of humor at all, do you? :huh: Your grandiose, pretentious, and pompous sermons just scream to be deflated. Glad to be of service.
So does anyone think we will ever see the day when corporations are no longer allowed to give campaign contributions? I mean that to me is the problem with politics, legislators are pandering to the people that give them money and not to the people that elect them, and they represent. Here is an interesting website about the campaign contributions for congressmen and women. Money in Politics - OpenCongress
Just getting rid of lobbying would do the trick. Let the corporations donate money to a candidate, just don't give them special access to our elected representatives to push their policy. Let the corporations lobby the voters directly. We'll tell the representatives what to do.
<So does anyone think we will ever see the day when corporations are no longer allowed to give campaign contributions?> That de facto bribery should have been forced to end long ago.
