No one relies on abortion as their primary birth control means, but I know many who consider it their failsafe. Some of these folks are married and would abort a baby because they don't want children before they buy a house. I have a very hard time being around these kind of people. Why make a vow that you are willing to accept children, but the will contracept to prevent having them, and abort them if the contraception fails?
It doesn't matter if its used for birth control or not. Its a mute point! Abortion is murder whether its in China, Iraq, Iran, Russia or America. No matter how you try and disguise it. Anyone who disagrees, I challenge you to get a hold of videos on the market and watch for yourself. It is very disturbing and disturbs me greatly. This bothers me on a daily basis, I couldn't watch all of the video even though I've seen it many years ago, the beginning was quite eye opening after all these years. They have videos that show a fetus is alive and active then it shows someone destroying it. The truth aint pretty. There is no pro-choice, if there was when do you decide at one stage do you kill the baby? I pray for god to change the laws and to forgive this once great country!
I am one who is against abortion and for the death penalty. I will address the sanctity of life by asking the victims who can't talk or their families about their loved ones. This argument seems to suggest that the killers rights are more important than the victims. By no means am I saying that Red is saying this but there is more to it than capital punishment saying that a killer shouldn't die because children shouldn't. Killers aren't innocent and children are and I do accept the argument that innocent people have been executed because someone probably has but the system isn't perfect either. Look at the guilty people that aren't convicted, I don't know for sure but I'm sure its safe to assume it works both ways. I also think we should have an adult channel for stories about killers and other lawbreakers and the results of their crimes for everyone to see. Its up to parents to put a parental lock on this channel if necessary. I think one problem in this country is the news seems to glorify killers without showing the results of their crimes to them and their victims. Not saying they do this on purpose but one has to wonder at times. What I am saying is not only should the death penalty be a deterent but a channel like this showing bad decisions and the results from those bad decisions should be shown to the public somehow becoming a deterent also.
George Carlin agrees. He thinks we should make capital punishment half-time shows at sporting events, and make them more entertaining too. Not this wimpy lethal injection, good stuff like crucifictions from the old days - now that's how you kill someone.
That isn't what I said. I don't see where I said anything about making it halftime shows at sporting events or entertainment, quite the opposite. It is the killer who decides his own fate when he decides to take a life. Not even close to what I have said and I'm not for "killing someone" Nice spin
You wanted to show the result of bad decisions. You said killers are glorified, but that the media should show the consequences of their actions. George Carlin's answer is to publicize the death penalty. That would make the consequences more obvious for everyone wouldn't it? It wasn't a "spin", it was a joke. Lighten up.
no problem, the thing about these boards is that you can't always tell when someone is joking or not but I was being serious about a serious discussion. That is all!:yelwink2:
you must not have much respect for our christian friends here if you think you are gonna catch them in a scenario where they favor both capital punishment and oppose abortion because they make a blind and general "all life is sacred" statement. i don't think that trap has ever been successfully sprung on anyone, because everyone in the universe is smart enough to make the distinction between guilty murderers and innocent babies. of course the regular pro-choice argument is so weak, thats all they are left with i guess. and vague statements like "it is a private matter", thats just another way of saying "murder is ok". why not just say it? if you are pro-choice, you are basically admitting that life is not sacred, and you can kill if it is convenient enough. and if you are not religious, this is a pretty easy thing to say. go ahead, give it a try.
I don't think life is sacred. I think life is precious. And that includes the life of the mother, too. If religions feel abortion is sinful, they can make it a sin and they have. But we can't let the government make it a crime based on other peoples religious beliefs. Government interference is not proper in a family matter. You backing government regulation here, mahtin?
