What about Ukraine and Russia?

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  1. kcal

    kcal Founding Member

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    military training exercises do not equate an invasion. even the ukraine president disagrees with you

    biden cant even get his 'scientists' to agree regarding covid policy.... how many different edicts have come from the cdc?

    have you forgotten the abysmal withdrawl from afghanistan? the ukaine minor excursion?
    do i need to go on?

    etc = et cetera
     
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  2. Jmg

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    more people have died under him than trump
     
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  3. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    and that was true in September of last year so it isn't even close now.
     
  4. fanatic

    fanatic Habitual Line Stepper

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    You're wasting your time. @Rex lauds that as a success.
     
  5. Rex

    Rex Founding Member

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    You mean the withdrawal that was conducted on trump's terms and timetable. The withdrawal that occurred amid the total collapse of the Afghan military because trump had totally neutered them.

    Look it up: trump negotiated a withdrawal with the Taliban, leaving the standing Afghan government and its military totally out of the process. What did this tell all the various tribal leaders in Afghanistan except that the USA didn't have the Afghan government's back, so fearing for their own survival they one by one inevitably aligned themselves with the Taliban.

    Still, despite all that, the withdrawal was efficient. As for the soldiers that died, well, that's a horror, but soldiers have been dying in Afghanistan all along. Even more soldiers would have died by terrorism if we hadn't withdrawn.
     
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  6. kcal

    kcal Founding Member

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    wrong

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    wrong


    but you get an A for consistency....
     
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  7. kluke

    kluke Founding Member

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    No. The Afghan withdrawal was a train wreck by any definition. And yes some of the cause can be attributed to baggage from the previous administration; but Biden still owns it.
     
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  8. fanatic

    fanatic Habitual Line Stepper

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    Which part, specifically? Sure, Trump negotiated a withdrawal, but he never intended to leave behind sophisticated military equipment, much less American citizens.
     
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  9. kluke

    kluke Founding Member

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    Agreed. I said Biden owns it. He certainly owns 100% of the people and equipment part. I was referring to the Doha agreement and specifically about how the agreement was between the US and Taliban and did not include the Afghan gov.
     
  10. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    But you oddly left out the part where the withdrawal was conditional. How quickly you libs forget that Trump bombed the shit out of them a day or so after signing it because they weren't doing what they were supposed to. This is 100% on pedo joe and his incompetent military staff.

    The alternative is they fucked it up this badly on purpose.
     

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