What about Ukraine and Russia?

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  1. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Start with US history 101. Report back.
     
  2. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    Dang you are on one tonight Mr. Whataboutism Deluxe
     
  3. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    You said you didnt know what he was talking about. When you dont know something, you need to learn. Thus, the recommendation.
     
  4. BAY0U BENGAL

    BAY0U BENGAL I'm a Chinese Bandit

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    The lies that said the laptop wasn’t real and that it had all the earmarks of being Russian disinformation. Which is what Joe Biden said during the debates, when asked about the laptop. And then the media ran with that lie. And social media disabled accounts and deleted stories about the laptop. But, you did know what I was referring to, you just have a neat little quip lined up waiting. So let’s hear the excuse.
     
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  5. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    that story that rudy told about the bribery and money laundering and human trafficking did indeed have all the earmarks of Russian disinformation...in fact, Rudy got it from that Russian backed group in Ukraine, when he went looking for dirt on the Bidens' and found none.....you know the group I'm talking about...they were sanctioned by our own government for their actions in the case. This is irrefutable evidence. You can pretend like those allegations weren't the story of the day back then but they were. You really think anyone cares about Hunter Biden's physical laptop? You think it's controversial that he owned a laptop? If the story had simply been that Hunter Biden is a drug addict then no one would have cared because we already knew that. But the story wasn't just that he was an addict...it was that he was guilty of everything from bribery to money laundering to even Human Trafficking. And those were lies...all of them. So now you want to act like none of that every existed...that this was all about whether Hunter Biden owned a laptop or not. It's disingenuous and it's just a straight up lie.
     
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  6. Rex

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    They want to pretend that if people knew Hunter had a laptop FOR REAL that it would have meant 7 million votes for trump. EVERYBODY has a laptop. That was never the issue... what the media refused to validate was Rudy's bullshit. The media KNEW Rudy was in cahoots with Russia, and knowing Rudy there was no reason to suspect anything else. So because it was the only portion that was valid why should the media report that Hunter had a laptop? How was that news? EVERYBODY has a laptop.
     
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  7. LSUpride123

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    Connoisseur of Russian stories are we?
     
  8. Jmg

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    was burisma ripped off by hunter or did they get real value? sure paid him alot. what about the chinese paying him millions?
     
  9. Jmg

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    it had info on it about his massive payments from china and ukraine.

    also, the most newsworthy bit to me is not so much the contents of th elaptop, but the effort to cover it up, and the government agents, who, without evidence*, labeled it as russian disinfo.

    the emails found were not russian disinfo, they were legit. burisma and chinese were actually paying millions to the biden family. the emails were legit and were not russian disinfo.

    * = "we do not have evidence of Russian involvement"



    https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000
     
  10. Jmg

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    i have noticed a pattern in the way the security state and media and DNC collude.

    hillary for example, will invent a story, maybe a bullshit lie about trump having a server connected to a russian bank. she will feed this story to the government. then she tell the press that the govt is investigating it. she wont mention that to the extent they are, it was at her urging. then, the govt itself through its former employees and former employees in media, will report that the govt is investigating.

    this strategy is outlined by pulitzer prize winning former NYT journalist jeff gerth here in the columbia journalism review

    https://www.cjr.org/special_report/trumped-up-press-versus-president-part-1.php

    here is an example from the article:

    "The Clinton campaign put out a statement on Twitter, linking to what it called the “bombshell report” on Yahoo, but did not disclose that the campaign secretly paid the researchers who pitched it to Isikoff. In essence, the campaign was boosting, through the press, a story line it had itself engineered."

    this strategy is used by the govt folks that wrote the letter about biden. they know what the govt is investigating, they are themselves govt agents. but they consistently say that media is investigating claims that media got from the govt. meaning they are telling you that the media is investigating the claims they themselves made up and are the source for.

    from the letter that was a lie about the biden laptop, signed by the govt officials:

    "media reports say that the FBI has now opened an investgaton into Russian
    involvement in this case. According to USA Today..federal authorites are investgatng..."

    its like if i go to WAFB and say you are a criminal, then i say "hey WAFB has sources that say you are a criminal!"

    but i'm the source!

    its fascinating really.
     
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