Were our ancestors mokeys?

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  1. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    neither have i, in fact i have specifically said the opposite many times. god very well may exist. alls i am saying is i dont believe in things that i have no clue about.

    for instance if you said you were thinking of a number between 0 and infinity, i wouldnt believe i had guessed it. but i might guess it first try. and in the same sense, chritianity may be true. god is as possible (and likely, in my estimation) as anything else you can imagine.

    any supposition that god exists is a guess, based on nothing. truth value undertemined. i am not going to start believing things merely because somebody said it. especially not folklore. i know how folklore works.

    so god may exist. and there really might be a person who died from pop rocks and soda. unless i can check every person who ever existed and confirm that they didnt die of pop rocks and soda, i cannot say for certain it didnt happen. but i dont believe it did.
     
  2. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    What is it about Christianity that has you calling people who believe to be insane?

    Christ or God is not going to call your name and say, "I'm here." It doesn't happen like that. And the basis for Jesus to be the Son of God comes from a bunch more than folklore.
     
  3. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    And just because you have not had an experience doesn't mean it isn't true. Just because you didn't land on the moon doesn't mean it didn't happen. Just because you haven't experienced any number of things doesn't mean it didn't or can't happen. You may say or attempt to fool yourself about how smart you are, but to say people are crazy for something to which you admit have no clue about, is a tad shortsighted don't you think?
     
  4. LsuCraig

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    Evolution says not one thing about creation. How do you think that proof of evolution denies creationism? Darwin explained how the universe started? Explain that please.
     
  5. martin

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    it is the concept of faith, which specifically is believing something without, and often in spite of, evidence. the way i see it, that can only be described as crazy.

    do you believe suicide bombers are crazy? they have faith just like you, the only difference is that god tells them different things.

    let me sum it up for you, with a quote from a guy i respect, richard dawkins:

    "Many of us saw religion as harmless nonsense. Beliefs might lack all supporting evidence but, we thought, if people needed a crutch for consolation, where's the harm? September 11th changed all that. Revealed faith is not harmless nonsense, it can be lethally dangerous nonsense. Dangerous because it gives people unshakeable confidence in their own righteousness. Dangerous because it gives them false courage to kill themselves, which automatically removes normal barriers to killing others. Dangerous because it teaches enmity to others labelled only by a difference of inherited tradition. And dangerous because we have all bought into a weird respect, which uniquely protects religion from normal criticism. Let's now stop being so damned respectful!"

    this is exactly what i think. i am sick of religion getting respected. religion is terrible, and stupid and crazy and dangerous and i hate it. and i hate when people spread it to each other. i wish people would start being sane.
     
  6. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    right, so why arent you muslim or hindu? are you so shortsighted as to know those religions are wrong and yours is right? how can you know that a suicide bomber hant been told to kill americans? you cant! so why not respect it, right?
     
  7. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    I know Christianity doesn't condone killing anyone. People have been murdered in the name of every religion since the beginning of time. But my friend, more people are killed without respect to any religion than all the religious wars the world could ever have.

    Jews were killed because of their religion....not in the name of a particular faith. Because they were hated. Random acts of violence occur in downtowns across this country and world without respect to religion.

    Religion saves more lives than a few who use it's name to kill. I don't attack Islam......I attack the ones who attack us and use their religion to hide behind. That's all they are doing........I liken it to attacking guns for killing people. Guns give them the means but not the will. People use their will to kill, or save. With or without religion, that fact will never change.
     
  8. LsuCraig

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    If God is guiding them to kill and defeat America, it will happen. I don't believe that is happening. I never said mine was right and their's is wrong. I believe in our country and will fight and die for it. In the end I could be wrong......and they were right. I believe we'll find out in the end who's right.
     
  9. Indiana Tiger

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    The context is the creation of man, not the creation of the universe.
     
  10. saltyone

    saltyone So Mote It Be

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    When I hear someone talking about evolution, more often than not, they start out by saying there was this "Big Bang", and then all things were put into motion. They make it sound like evolution started at that precise moment and every living thing is a byproduct of said "Big Bang". But, we Christians are the crazy ones.

    I see your point, Darwin did not mention how the universe started. All of these "theories" were invented afterwards to try and legitimize darwin's claim. I believe, as science progresses, atheist and humanist will have to continue to modify their version of how things have come about, as their "theories" are proven wrong. We, on the other hand, have been sticking to the same story since the begining. It must scare the pants off of athiest knowing that one day science may actually prove creation, not evolution, to be true.
     

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