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Welcome to the new era of LSU football. Miles plays Loser football.

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USChater Founding Member

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FightinTIGER said:

Do yourself a favor and give up hope right now because it
WILL NOT GET ANY BETTER.

Miles is in WAY over his head. This has nothing to do with him as a person as I'm sure he's a nice guy but he does not have the coaching skills to succeed at this level.

Putting aside all of the coaching mistakes the biggest reason Miles will not succeed at LSU is that
MILES PLAYS LOSER FOOTBALL.

Miles plays New Orleans Saints football. Doing less with more. Winning at points with talent then sitting on a lead. Playing one way and winning then playing scared and changing your scheme only to lose.

Couple of other thoughts

The team is undisciplined. Tons of penalties. Late hits. Smack talk.

Game management is a joke. This coaching staff is laughable.

Jamarcus runs instead of throwing the ball away. Field goal and LSU wins by 3. That type of selfish play isn't surprising from a player with "the chosen one" tattooed on his arm.

Playing to not lose and sitting on leads loses football games.

Pissing away 2 minutes and a chance to win the game to play for overtime when your offense hasn't moved the ball all half?? Brilliant.

With all of the talent on this team why is Hester and Brazille getting the ball so much? Jimbo is squandering his talent.

The defensive players are usually lost when playing prevent zone. They look to the side lines for answers as Tennessee was snapping the ball.

And finally, who made the decisions to change offensive and defensive schemes after the half? Did Miles order Jimbo and Bo to get so conservative or did they do that on their own?

WHY IS JIMBO NOT GETTING THE BALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE PLAYMAKERS??

Do we even have a tight end? What does EVERY OC do when their QB is having trouble getting into a rhythm? How about some quick outs to the TE? How about some screens? NOWHERE.

A tiger doesn't change his stripes. The one overriding thought that Okie State, OU and Texas fans all told LSU fans when Miles was hired was that he would blow HUGE leads. He is an old school BIG 10 disciple. Sit on leads and hope the clock runs out. Miles plays LOSER FOOTBALL.

Here is the bottom line. If you think Miles is somehow going to change his coaching style after 25 years you're going to be waiting a long time. He doesn't have the skills. PERIOD. He was a desperate hire after Saban left us in a lurch.

It took a last minute 4th down desperation play to beat an average Arizona St. team and Miles blew a 21-0 half time lead to a team that had 14 penalties and 4 turnovers at home.

The saddest part is that we're stuck with Miles for at least 2 probably 3 until we can even have a chance to get a new coach and a new beginning.

Everyone knew, including Miles what was expected. This team is loaded and this coaching staff is doing less with more. It isn’t because these players don’t know their brilliant system yet. Any moron can see this is a staff that is LOST. Should we kick? Should we spike? They don’t f-ing know.

These players played hard but were let down once again by their coaches. You will see transfers. This staff is a friggin joke.
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Im a real Tiger fan and I would like to whip your for talking sht and my Tigers. You people have no clue about being a real LSU fan. I could name you 116 other teams that wish they were LSU this year but you idiots have no common sense
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cedricg said:

A voice of reason. Miles can't coach in the SEC. LSU has as much talent as any team in college football. Yet they have struggled to win all year. This is the ugliest 10-1 season I've ever seen. There should not have been a close game all year. I've said it all year, Miles doesn't have the attitude to coach in the SEC. You can't play conservative in this league. Field Goals will never win you a national title. Now if you're happy with contending for a SEC title every few years then Miles is your man.

Just imagine if Spurrier had this team. LSU would be the most hated team in football. That would be awesome, because that would mean LSU would've pounded every team they played this year, and would've played with a swagger on top of that. But instead, we got DiNardo's deciple.

A lot of people say, "wait till he get's his own players, you'll see." Hello, you can't have much more talent than he has now. This will be the best LSU will do under Miles. Im sure Ang is happy with that.
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Make sure you finish up that degree at Nicholls. It's important to get an education, even if it's middle school-level.

NoLimitMD, Nov 26, 2005

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FightinTIGER said:

Do yourself a favor and give up hope right now because it
WILL NOT GET ANY BETTER.

Miles is in WAY over his head. This has nothing to do with him as a person as I'm sure he's a nice guy but he does not have the coaching skills to succeed at this level.

Putting aside all of the coaching mistakes the biggest reason Miles will not succeed at LSU is that
MILES PLAYS LOSER FOOTBALL.

Miles plays New Orleans Saints football. Doing less with more. Winning at points with talent then sitting on a lead. Playing one way and winning then playing scared and changing your scheme only to lose.

Couple of other thoughts

The team is undisciplined. Tons of penalties. Late hits. Smack talk.

Game management is a joke. This coaching staff is laughable.

Jamarcus runs instead of throwing the ball away. Field goal and LSU wins by 3. That type of selfish play isn't surprising from a player with "the chosen one" tattooed on his arm.

Playing to not lose and sitting on leads loses football games.

Pissing away 2 minutes and a chance to win the game to play for overtime when your offense hasn't moved the ball all half?? Brilliant.

With all of the talent on this team why is Hester and Brazille getting the ball so much? Jimbo is squandering his talent.

The defensive players are usually lost when playing prevent zone. They look to the side lines for answers as Tennessee was snapping the ball.

And finally, who made the decisions to change offensive and defensive schemes after the half? Did Miles order Jimbo and Bo to get so conservative or did they do that on their own?

WHY IS JIMBO NOT GETTING THE BALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE PLAYMAKERS??

Do we even have a tight end? What does EVERY OC do when their QB is having trouble getting into a rhythm? How about some quick outs to the TE? How about some screens? NOWHERE.

A tiger doesn't change his stripes. The one overriding thought that Okie State, OU and Texas fans all told LSU fans when Miles was hired was that he would blow HUGE leads. He is an old school BIG 10 disciple. Sit on leads and hope the clock runs out. Miles plays LOSER FOOTBALL.

Here is the bottom line. If you think Miles is somehow going to change his coaching style after 25 years you're going to be waiting a long time. He doesn't have the skills. PERIOD. He was a desperate hire after Saban left us in a lurch.

It took a last minute 4th down desperation play to beat an average Arizona St. team and Miles blew a 21-0 half time lead to a team that had 14 penalties and 4 turnovers at home.

The saddest part is that we're stuck with Miles for at least 2 probably 3 until we can even have a chance to get a new coach and a new beginning.

Everyone knew, including Miles what was expected. This team is loaded and this coaching staff is doing less with more. It isn’t because these players don’t know their brilliant system yet. Any moron can see this is a staff that is LOST. Should we kick? Should we spike? They don’t f-ing know.

These players played hard but were let down once again by their coaches. You will see transfers. This staff is a friggin joke.
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10-1 is your idea of a loser?
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I like jalapeno peppers on my nachos.

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USNavyTiger said:

so we can't discuss what we feel?

ok guys, no more free speech anymore, ok?
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Sure you can. But if you post thoughts that many Tigers feel are unwarranted and with which they disagree strongly, then you will get some powerful negative feedback. That is the price for freedom of speech. We don't have to like your speech.

Also consider than being a MAJOR downer on the day after an important Tiger victory is felt to be anti-LSU by most folks. Save it for the off-season. That is the kind of stuff that opponent posers do when they come here to cause trouble. We should be talking about our bowl prospects or about Georgia instead of having a dozen threads by people bitching about how unstylish we look while winning. Recruits read these boards after big games and the nattering nabobs of negativity just make LSU look bad. I find this hard to forgive.

The anti-Miles, anti-Jimbo slant of many of these posts go WAY beyond constructive criticism. It is just mindless ranting by people who demand PERFECTION in every game and in every season. No school in the country plays good enough to make some people happy around here.

So, speak freely--all you want to. But if others think you are full of it, they will speak freely in putting it down with all the eloquence thay can muster.

red55, Nov 27, 2005

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red55 said:

The anti-Miles, anti-Jimbo slant of many of these posts go WAY beyond constructive criticism. It is just mindless ranting by people who demand PERFECTION in every game and in every season. No school in the country plays good enough to make some people happy around here.
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after the Hog win Im convinced. Most fans are idiots. 80 percent of people I've heard either on radio or average fan in bar room is complaining about the predictable play calling. I kept this in mind while watching the game live knowing it was gonna come up when not the case. It was far from conservative the majority of the game. At times you must play that way given the situation yet when I hear that jimbo was so predictable, I predict that fan is an idiot. And Im usually right.

edit: and your nice little use of alliteration doesn't go unappreciated.

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Red55, will you please let any of us that have an opinion different than your own know when it is time to express it. I was unaware that we needed to post on a certain schedule so that only certain people can read and respond. After all, we don't want to upset the applecart and get your panties all in a wad now do we?

carsonin98, Nov 27, 2005

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carsonin98 said:

Red55, will you please let any of us that have an opinion different than your own know when it is time to express it.
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Read the post again. You can post any opinion you want to, whenever you want to. But if you want it to be seen as constructive criticism instead of mindless bitching and if you want people to agree with you, then understand:

1. Timing is important. Don't throw cold water on people who are celebrating a West Division championship. Bore us later in the week, or in April when we don't have much football to talk about. But fair-weather fans like you won't be around in the off-season, will you?

2. Mix in some positive comments and something that shows us that you have more to offer than to just point fingers at the coaches. Something that indicates that you may have actually watched a football game before.

3. Try to understand the difference between winning ugly and losing. I sat through six straight losing seasons inthe 1990's. I can say without reservation that winning ugly is GREAT. GREAT, do you hear me?

red55, Nov 27, 2005

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Do you have a reading comprehension problem? No one is telling you that you can't post whatever you want. Negative posts aren't being deleted. You are free to post anything you want.

But just like anything else, you should be prepared to defend your position and expect people to challenge what you say if they disagree.

That, my friend, is free speech...

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red55 said:

Read the post again. You can post any opinion you want to, whenever you want to. But if you want it to be seen as constructive criticism instead of mindless bitching and if you want people to agree with you, then understand:

1. Timing is important. Don't throw cold water on people who are celebrating a West Division championship. Bore us later in the week, or in April when we don't have much football to talk about. But fair-weather fans like you won't be around in the off-season, will you?

2. Mix in some positive comments and something that shows us that you have more to offer than to just point fingers at the coaches. Something that indicates that you may have actually watched a football game before.

3. Try to understand the difference between winning ugly and losing. I sat through six straight losing seasons inthe 1990's. I can say without reservation that winning ugly is GREAT. GREAT, do you hear me?
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Again I say if people don't like to win even if it is ugly then we should get Gerry D. back. I really like him on the side line but we didn't win many games back then.

Tiger fan in Wy, Nov 27, 2005

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