We The People Will Fund The Wall

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  1. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 Boobies make everything A OK!!!

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    I think its cute people bring up the second amendment.

    "Shall not be infringed".

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    "My cold dead hands".



    #inbeforeyoucouldn'twinvsmilitary
     
  2. Winston1

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    Yeah? Well there’s plenty of precedent to limit gun ownership without eliminating the 2nd amendment. Draconian gun laws are not necessarily prohibited and declaration of an emergency could allow restrictions on access, require registration, “safety” classes, tools or a license to purchase guns or ammunition etc that would limit our use. It would gut the 2nd amendment without repealing it.

    I read an article in Reason (sorry I can’t find it again) that noted there is a part of the 1934 FCC act (I think) that allows the president to take over all broadcast. Media in a national emergency. FDR wanted to use it in WWII but the guy he appointed understood that would be a disaster so he worked with radio and movie companies to privately develop the propaganda FDR wanted.

    There are so many other avenues a leftist or right wing president could destroy our freedoms using this false (in Trump’s own words) declaration. I fear Pandora’s Box has truly been opened.
     
  3. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 Boobies make everything A OK!!!

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    Again. I and others have our guns. Over 400 million in the country alone. Let them start some shit. Will make the Middle East seem like a vacation.

    There are much more avenues for us to put them in their place. Trust me. They aint ready for what they would wake up. We wouldn't take to the streets like the green haired sky screamers.
     
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  4. el005639

    el005639 Founding Member

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    Neither the Democrats threatening the second amendment or gun owners taking to the streets makes America great again. But that is where we are.
     
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  5. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 Boobies make everything A OK!!!

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    Using the 2nd amendment is a deterrent. Plain and simple. That is fundamental purpose.

    Having a healthy fear is good for society.
     
  6. Winston1

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    You’ve only commented on the 2nd amendment and ignored the threats to other facets that are as problematic to our future. Do you discount them? What if some democrat declared climate change a national emergency and forced changes in how we produce and use energy? Using Trump’s logic and precedent it’s very possible. That would disrupt our economy more than any immigrant wave.
    Then to enforce it they used that 1930’s FCC act to nationalize all spectrums of communication. Again that’s a power already enacted into law.
    The problem isn’t guns or climate change or any other issue. It’s that we’ve just about stopped talking and only shout opinions. No one listens.
    Our country was founded on compromise and accommodation. We have checks and balances to find a path forward that doesn’t totally alienate one side or the other. Going to a “nuclear option “ destroys that potential. You can guarantee that the next democrat elected will use Trump’s precedent to their own desire.
    These actions will put the country back on a brink it hasn’t seen since 1860. No I’m not predicting civil war but a breakdown of our society that no one will emerge victorious or whole.
     
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    So what’s going to happen? 400,000,000 guns pulled out for violence against the legally elected government will result in chaos and a total breakdown of our society. The police and armed forces will be paralyzed and our social fabric rent asunder.
    Firebrand talk like that is not productive but destructive. There’s an old saying that goes something like this...”Violence is the first refuge of fools and the last refuge of the wise.” Which are you?
     
  8. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 Boobies make everything A OK!!!

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    You’ve got it backwards. If there is violence, it ain’t me who started it. But YOU are the one that said we have to fear them taking our guns. I am simply telling you it will never happen and if by chance it does, the tree of liberty will drink well.
     
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  10. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC It's Been Long Enough

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    So the Dems were on board with giving Trump like 1.7 billion for his wall/fence and he refused to sign the bill, shut down the government for 35 days and finally signed a bill where he got 1.35 billion. I thought he was supposed to be a good negotiator and make "the best deals." Talk about being in over your head. Trump is a joke and his die hard supporters are the idiots that Ann Coulter was referring to the other day after the Rose garden ceremony where Trump celebrated getting less. Only an idiot can look at these numbers and these results and declare victory. Only an idiot.
     

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