War on Terror a Scam?

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  1. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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  2. flabengal

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    That's all info from your link....

    Don't you find it odd that initially the officials denied there was a second man involved? On what basis did they deny that, the video? And they refuse to release the video because it corroborates what Haskell said happened...

    What was the second man doing there?

    You just try to smear witness accounts by calling them "truthers" and then turn around and accept government agency accounts even after they reverse their story to cover their tracks.

    It's ridiculous...government agencies are the least reliable entities you can find.
     
  3. martin

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    they did? says who? there was a second man involved? says who?

    they do? what video? says who? are you trying to set a record for speedily making unsupported assertions?

    traveling? i was at airpors all week and i saw lots of second men, third men, and hundreds more, all hanging aroung ticket counters. some of them spoke english! creepy.

    because they didnt offer up witness testimony. they didnt just say what they saw. they followed it up with a bunch of truther nonsense that had zero to do with what they allegedly witnessed. when a witness tells you more than simply what he saw, he reveals to you what he wants you to think.

    if the government reported that the sun will rise at a given time, will you refuse to believe it because the government said it?

    did the agency even reverse their story? says who?

    thats nice. why dont you address my point about why he simply wasnt given a passport from the start by the conspirators, so as to avoid those pesky truthers and their eagle eyes and ears? US government (and complicit dutch government) too powerless to secure a passport? cant answer? of course not.
     
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    furthermore, was this man allegedly speaking dutch in an american accent? or was he speaking american english to the dutch agents? if he was speaking dutch, then is this guy haskell some sort of advanced linguist who can identify an american dutch accent from a british or german one. yunno german is very similar to english and they have very similar speech cadences and diction when speaking other languages.
     
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    flabengal Founding Member

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    1) The authorities initially said there was no accomplices. Now they admit there were.

    2) There are two attorneys who are eyewitness. The video has not been made public. Where is the evidence contradicting the attorney's version of events? A federal grand jury has already determined the dutch got it wrong.

    3) I did address your point as well as I could, in an earlier post. I have found out in the meantime that he was on a few "terror watch lists" or something like that so maybe the organizers were afraid he would get stopped before he got on the plane. So they sent the WDM wtih him to get him past security.
     
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    this is even phrased dishionestly. if anything like this was said, it was said like "we do not currently know of any accomplices." must everything be a constant slog through dishonest phrasing nonsense?

    use of the word "admit" is dishonest, it implies they are begrudgingly changing their story, which they are not.

    yes, husband and wife truther, i know. you told us a thousand times.

    i claim that santa claus was there. where is the evidence contradicting my claim?

    got what wrong? what are you talking about?

    so your theory is that they sent this man without a passport (which isnt true, because he had a passport) because it would easier to have a sketchy-ass agent talk down the airport people. they could have just given him a passport, but they chose to bring in mr suspicious well dressed man instead?

    and i told you already, he did have a passport. pay the **** attention.

    i should note again, that i do genuinely hate you. i dont like when people are so recalcitrant about truth. when their own motivation for self-aggrandizement is so overwhelming that every sentence is a lie.
     
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    All intelligent observers. Egypt is our biggest ally in the Arab world, without whom our oil supply is endangered. It's the big domino and what matters now is if it has a Russian revolution where grass-roots democracy ousted the politically totalitarian government . . . or an Iranian revolution where islamic fundamentalists ousted the secular totalitarian government.

    Rand Paul is an idiot. Our enemies are not stopping their foreign aid, especially the Chinese. Money buys influence and bribery is far cheaper than warfare. Effective use (and withdrawal) of foreign aid is what makes a superpower a superpower. Just as with military power, most of our adversaries cannot compete with us in this area.

    The real problem is that there are only two significant parties who have stacked the rules to prevent a significant third party from emerging. The parties increasingly work for their most radical elements and ignore the best interests of the country in their single-minded attempts to remake the nation in their image. The pragmatic independent moderates are not properly represented by either party. Until a moderate third party emerges, this country will make little political progress.
     
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    So you are saying that I am difficult to argue with? Please, man....you are extremely difficult to argue with and write bizarre things like "I do genuinely hate you"....

    What's that about?

    The "truther's" were eyewitness....they were on the plane. You are basing your arguments on what the Dutch authorities say, and their initial
    statements have been discredited.

    Dutch:
    US:
    Federal agents later said they were trying to identify and find the well-dressed man.[18] U.S. authorities had initially discounted the passenger accounts, but agents later said there was a growing belief that the man played a role in making sure Abdulmutallab "did not get cold feet".[

    The offiicials stated that they are investigating to find out who the "well dressed man" was.....that means that what the Dutch said, was inaccurate.

    I don't know how I can phrase it any nicer.
     
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    i am saying every sentence is riddled with dishonesty and misunderstanding. you have to be stopped and corrected every few words because you are in a wild struggle to distort EVERY DETAIL in order to present things as they are not. every detail with you is a lie. every detail.

    that is true. you are a personification of most everything i hate. so difficult, so irrational, so self aggrandizing.


    they were also on the alex jones radio show. yunno who goes on that show? crazies.

    no they werent. discredited by who? which initial statements?



    a "growing belief" among who? the US agents?

    which officials? US officials? meaning the guy was there as an agent of al queda to make sure the guy didnt get cold feet? that actually isnt particularly hard to believe. but it opposes your argument.
     
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    again, to review: the underwear bomber got on a plane, with a passport, just like everyone else.

    some truthers go on alex jones and talk conspiracies and pretend like the guy didnt have a passport, which is not true. flabengal buys into it because he will believe literally anything, provided it is said by a bumbling idiot.
     

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