Va. lawmakers pass slavery apology

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I apologize for my Viking ancestor's behavior while sacking, plundering, raping, and ultimately settling northern England. Wish I could have been there. I regret this holocaust inflicted upon the Angles, but I will not pay reparations to Anglo Americans.
     
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  2. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    I'mm pretty sure the British owe my (coon) ass an apology and a few pounds in reparations.

    On the other hand, I could have ended up being a freakin' hoser from Quebec, so I guess it's all good.
     
  3. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    As someone whose paternal grand-father decended from a Welsh family I accept an apology.
     
  4. MFn G I M P

    MFn G I M P Founding Member

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    You left out that it was also issued to ensure that the French and British didn't join the war on the Confederates side. Because, by issuing it, the war was made into a war about slavery and France and Britain (having already freed their slaves) didn't want to join in on a pro-slavery side in a war.
     
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  5. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    i wanna apologize on behalf of all the turks for converting to islam in the 10th century.
     
  6. col reb

    col reb Founding Member

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    Years ago, I had a cartoon (taken from a Playboy, if I remember correctly) that hung on my wall. It showed Abe Lincoln in his long johns, sitting on the edge of his bed obviously hung over. There were whiskey bottles littering the floor.

    The caption------------

    I SIGNED "WHAT?" I FREED "WHO?":hihi: :hihi:
     
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  7. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    Well, since it was African warlords that sold their POW's into slavery, black people should apologize to themselves. While I categorically disagree with the concept of slavery, this is asinine on so many different levels.

    Thanks for lowering the bar, Virginia.
     
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  8. Bengal Buddy

    Bengal Buddy Founding Member

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    There is some of truth to this statement. The Emancipation Proclamation was a strange document. If ordered the freeing of slaves in those Southern states that were still in the state of rebellion (where the federal government had no authority) and left intact slavery in those Southern states that were under the control of the union army (where the federal government had authority). It was a political document designed to give the North a "cause" in addition to the preservation of the union. But that is not to say the EP had no effect. Thousands of slaves, upon hearing of the EP, fled their plantations to freedom. So it was responsible for freeing may slaves. But the primary agent of emancipation was the Union armies. In every area that fell under their control, there slavery ceased to exist. By the time the 13'th amendment was passed, there was no institutional slavery remainin in the United States. The 13th Amendment did not actually free any slaves; it merely codified a situation that already existed in fact.
     
  9. Bengal Buddy

    Bengal Buddy Founding Member

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    This is often true, but no one can escape history. The fact is that historians from both the North and the South have for a long time agreed on the basic facts surrounding the events that led up to the Civil War, the war itself, and its aftermath. Their depiction of all the major actors in the drama, including Lincoln, as well as the moral, economic, social and political effects of slavery, are pretty consistent with each other. They all pretty much agree that Abraham Lincoln was arguably the greatest of presidents (certainly one of the top two), that slavery was an evil which had to be ended, and that the Civil War for all of its terrible costs, was justfied.
     
  10. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    I have no idea whose histories you have been reading, but they are a far cry from the ones I read.
     

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