i was thinking the same thing on culture shock, ab. but you also hit the nail on the head for one of the players, morency, that miles recruited that did well there, but was from a different back ground. if i remember correctly, morency was from the houston inner city area, and stillwater is well, the best i can compare is starkvegas. both small college towns built around land grant schools and farming communities. but if a kid is committed to focusing on football and wants to be in a program they can stand out in, then i guess those things are secondary. and who knows, just like bell and morency a kid may actually flourish in a new type of environment. thats a nice transfer pick up for gundy. i will be interested in seeing how moody does at osu.