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LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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stevescookin said: ↑

I bet they didn't have rich uncles either...:grin:.

Now that you mention it, you're right...he wasn't one of the fab five. Thanks for pointing that out. He did get Michigan in trouble though and here's more info on him about that from wikkipedia.

Traylor was one of the former Michigan players whose ties to booster Ed Martin roiled the program. During his freshman year, Traylor broke his arm in a car accident while out with teammates and recruiting prospect Mateen Cleaves (who ended up going to rival Michigan State). That accident triggered a six-year investigation into the Wolverine program. Martin, who died in 2003 at 69, pleaded guilty in 2002 to conspiracy to launder money and told federal prosecutors he took gambling money, combined it with other funds and lent $616,000 to Traylor, Chris Webber and two other Wolverine players dating to when they were still in high school.[1] Traylor received three years' probation.[2]
Due to NCAA violations connected to the case (principally the compromising of the amateur status of Traylor, Webber and Taylor), Michigan withdrew from consideration for the 2003 NCAA tournament, lost scholarships and was placed on probation. The school also vacated the records of every game in which Traylor played from its record book. Traylor also had to surrender his MVP award for the 1997 NIT, as well as his MVP award from the 1998 Big Ten tournament. Murray-Wright High School in Detroit, where Traylor played high school basketball, voluntarily forfeited its entire 1994-95 season (Traylor's senior season).
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So was he the reason Steve Fisher left? I remember watching him at Michigan and thinking why isn't this guy playing football, he was a load!

LaSalleAve, May 26, 2010

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red55 said: ↑

Translation: Yes, I was wrong and Red is right. :lol:
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Not even close, in fact you are rarely right about anything although you have many posts.

TwistedTiger, May 26, 2010

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TwistedTiger said: ↑

Not even close, in fact you are rarely right about anything although you have many posts.
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:insane:

red55, May 26, 2010

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LaSalleAve said: ↑

So was he the reason Steve Fisher left.

Fisher got canned in 1997. The penalties started coming down about five years later.

Bo stepped aside as AD in '97 amidst the hoopla and Michigan went out and hired Tom Goss as AD... a former player who was working at Del Monte. Michigan thought Goss' corporate experience would be a big plus in money raising (as Michigan is all about filling the coffers). Goss had no athletic administrative training and it showed. He was removed three years later.
But what he did do when he got there was can Steve Fisher and bump up his buddy, Brian Ellerbe, to head coach. There was no "coach search" as the two had worked together in the past on some black athletes issues.
I only have memory of this because I worked with Tom Goss in a prior business life. When I heard he had been made AD at Michigan, I thought, "Wow, this is going to be fun to watch unravel."

And it was.
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Once again they report that the NCAA investigation results will be announced this Friday.

Source: NCAA committee on infraction findings on USC football, basketball to come Friday - ESPN Los Angeles

red55, Jun 1, 2010

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I dont think USC gets a wrist slap on this one. You have two sports at the same school operating outside the rules. The writing has been on the wall for a while. Just looking at what USC proposed as penalties in basketball should give you some insight. I doubt you find a USC fan today thinking they skate and Petey didnt leave because he thought the Seahawk job was a plum. The NCAA has no choice but to levy some stiff sanctions.

DRC, Jun 1, 2010

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DRC said: ↑

I dont think USC gets a wrist slap on this one. You have two sports at the same school operating outside the rules. The writing has been on the wall for a while. Just looking at what USC proposed as penalties in basketball should give you some insight. I doubt you find a USC fan today thinking they skate and Petey didnt leave because he thought the Seahawk job was a plum. The NCAA has no choice but to levy some stiff sanctions.
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I agree. The NCAA won't amount to a bucket of warm spit if they let USC walk on this. Bama fans would rightfully be outraged. There is a lot of info in the public, Bush's parents living rent free while he's in school. Everyone's watching this one, and the NCAA. Will they enforce the rules, and if not, what becomes of college athletics? Seems to me there's gotta be stiff sanctions on this. But, I've been surprised before!

houtiger, Jun 1, 2010

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cadillacattack Illegitimi non carborundum est

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red55 said: ↑

Once again they report that the NCAA investigation results will be announced this Friday.

Source: NCAA committee on infraction findings on USC football, basketball to come Friday - ESPN Los Angeles
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looks like the timetable has been moved up to Wednesday:

Report: USC to learn NCAA fate Wednesday
Posted by John Taylor on June 1, 2010 3:52 PM ET

It was reported on ESPN Los Angeles.com over the weekend that the NCAA's findings on its investigation into USC's football and basketball programs would be released on Friday.

However, another arm of the network's sprawling empire reports that the school will find out about the results of the probe much earlier.

By way of our buddy SportsByBrooks, ESPN radio "personality" Colin Cowherd reported on his nationally-syndicated show today that USC will learn its fate on Wednesday. Additionally, a source told Cowherd "that USC will be given two days, 48 hours notice, damage control preparation."

Which means, and as noted by Cowherd himself, loose lips will start flapping and word will likely begin to leak tomorrow on the sanctions -- or lack thereof -- the football program will be facing.

Provided the source is correct, of course.

In other words, get your popcorn ready. It could be a very, very interesting day tomorrow. Or not. One of the two.
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cadillacattack, Jun 2, 2010

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I agree. The NCAA won't amount to a bucket of warm spit if they let USC walk on this. Bama fans would rightfully be outraged. There is a lot of info in the public, Bush's parents living rent free while he's in school. Everyone's watching this one, and the NCAA. Will they enforce the rules, and if not, what becomes of college athletics? Seems to me there's gotta be stiff sanctions on this. But, I've been surprised before!
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i would love to think that the ncaa will do the right thing, but i have absolutely no faith in the ncaa.

zip. nada. none.:nope:

OkieTigerTK, Jun 2, 2010

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Think positive. Maybe they are going to come down on them so hard it's been taking extra long to get all the mountains of evidence organised. I think they say in the legal world, when the jury is out for a long time, that it's not a good sign for the defendant.

pharpe, Jun 2, 2010

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