US standing in Middle East lower now than at end of Bush Administration

fyi. the embassy attacks make a little more sense to me now.

"Mr. Sidhom approvingly recalled the uproar among Egyptian Christians that greeted the 2006 film “The Da Vinci Code,” which was seen as an affront to aspects of traditional Christianity and the persona of Jesus. Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon and other Arab countries banned both the film and the book on which it was based. And in Egypt, where insulting any of the three Abrahamic religions is a crime, the police even arrested the head of a local film company for importing 2,000 copies of the DVD, according to news reports."

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its also easy to see how we are lumped in with "the west" although clearly, as in this case, we are not all the same.

"In his statement after protesters breached the walls of the United States Embassy last Tuesday, the spiritual leader of the Egypt’s mainstream Islamist group, the Muslim Brotherhood, declared that “the West” had imposed laws against “those who deny or express dissident views on the Holocaust or question the number of Jews killed by Hitler, a topic which is purely historical, not a sacred doctrine."

stupid religious idealogues

"In the West, many may express astonishment that the murder of Muslims in hate crimes does not provoke the same level of global outrage as the video did. But even a day after the clashes in Cairo had subsided, many Egyptians argued that a slur against their faith was a greater offense than any attack on a living person.
“When you hurt someone, you are just hurting one person,” said Ahmed Shobaky, 42, a jeweler. “But when you insult a faith like that, you are insulting a whole nation that feels the pain.”

and some of it has nothing to do with the US or Islam.

"There are also purely local dynamics that can fan the flames. In Tunis, an American school was set on fire by protesters angry over the video — but then looted of computers and musical instruments by people in the neighborhood."

Here in Cairo, ultraconservative Islamists known as Salafis initially helped drum up outrage against the video and rally their supporters to protest outside the embassy. But by the time darkness fell and a handful of young men climbed the embassy wall, the Salafis were nowhere to be found, and they stayed away the rest of the week.
Egyptian officials said that some non-Salafis involved in the embassy attacks confessed to receiving payments, although no payer had been identified. But after the first afternoon, the next three days of protests were dominated by a relatively small number of teenagers and young men — including die-hard soccer fans known as ultras. They appeared to have been motivated mainly by the opportunity to attack the police, whom they revile."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/17/w...y-culture-divide.html?src=me&ref=general&_r=0

 

Derailed? You question his foreign policy, I thought we were talking about foreign policy. He gets the blame for the bad, but not for the good huh? Since other presidents have gone through those motions. Just like other presidents have had embassy attacks on their watch and so forth. You are not making much sense actually. I have provided what the facts are Obama is not weak on foreign policy. Domestic policy yes we can argue that and Id agree with you in some aspects. But foreign policy, I think you are just blowing hot air. Thats my opinion. Yes I will continue to disagree with you, because it is of my opinion that you dont know what the hell you are talking about.

 

lol you are truly funny. because we should enter into more wars in every middle eastern country who talks shit or threatens to blow up someone. And we should invade Iran and Libya and Syria and then figure out who we are fighting 2 years after we are there.

 

looking for your facts......oh you said it, fact, got it.

 

I've been called funny as f..k actually, thanks I like your idea, the sooner we realize we are at war with Islam the better.......

 

my bad, he is just going through the motions of killing terrorist. gotcha.

 

Like all the others, coming up short and what's he gonna do stop in his first term? Nah save that for the second term when he really puts the death nail in our country......

 

id rather you just say I dont have anything. I just believe in what Im saying.

 

I'm sorry to let you down I wish you could always get what you wanted too I really do, I don't know why I say anything , everything you say is fact, just ask you.....

 

glad you realize that now. you are better person for it, trust me.