Unofficial Reports: John Chavis New DC

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  1. stevescookin

    stevescookin Certified Who Dat

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    Re: DC Watch: John Chavis

    Yep, the coaches are the ones who are responsible for maintaining control of the team. They decide who plays and what schemes, formations, plays, etc. to run. They also are responsible for maintaining the mental edge or motivation- whatever you want to call it. And they either didn't pick up on it or manage it very well. Something more is wrong with the team that I can't seem to put my finger on. I think with the right coaches brought in, it can be nipped in the bud or turned around.

    You're right about me being confused. I'm on the outside looking in. I have no idea what's going on around the team; but the coaches should. Something seemed wrong this year. Something more than the QB situation alone. I'm scratching my head, trying to read between the lines to figure out what went wrong.

    I hope whoever Miles brings in to be the new DC or position coach is the type who commands / earns respect. This team will have a lot of returning talent to work with and I'm optimistic that the team's mental lapses can be turned around with the right coaching leadership.

    So, when do you think an announcement will be made? For me the sooner the better. I don't think we can allow this thing to fester. We need to find the cure.
     
  2. LSU Engineer

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    I agree. The playcalling was in a not to lose mode in the second half after getting up 30-14. I also think there was a definite attitude problem especially with the offense. Byrd is a diva and showed his a$$ to often. If I were the coach his a$$ would have been on the bench. I think again it was a case of the senior loyalty crap.

    Did anyone see the look on Lee's face? He looked confused/scared, in the big games. I would watch and they would show a close up of Jarrett Lee and I know if I were in the huddle with that guy, he would have not inspired confidence. I think JJ showed a lot more poise and looked less rattled from the first snap of the game against Arkansas. It was the coaches responsibility to recognize this and get him ready to play earlier.
     
  3. geauxtigs

    geauxtigs Tigers Forever

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    :geaux::crystal::helmet: Agree with ya on Byrd. He did show his a$$ and deserved a trip to the bench. My nominee for serious Pine-time in the Arky game was Tremaine Johnson after his bone-headed personal foul after LSU stopped the porkers on 3rd and 29. Never should have got back in the game, IMO. Could've been the play that cost LSU the game right there. No excuse for something like that. :dis: :geauxtige:champs::LSU231:
     
  4. TwistedTiger

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    I agree 100%, his attitude was pi$$ poor to say the least. He let his frustration with the QB's take him out of his game and it showed.
    I'm not so sure that it was senior loyalty as much as it was Miles hoping that the QB's would get it together and Byrd would then get his head out of his azz. Also it's not like anyone else stepped up to take the #1 or #2 spot and puleeeeze don't mention Tolliver here, he has a looooong way to go.
     
  5. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    I didn't say anything about play calling as it pertained to the outcome of the game. I said we ran more in the first half which has been proven. We had good balance in the second half statistically speaking. However, our runs were ineffective because our line chose to quit. Scott never saw a ray of daylight.

    Did they call for posts on every first down, so JJ could "blow it up"? No, they didn't, but he still did not catch on fire when he had to. Like when Arkansas kept scoring and we did not. That being said, I don't somehow think Crowton became a dunce for the second half of this game. I think he recognized limitations of JJ, saw adjustments by the Ark defense, and tried to compensate. It didn't work and he holds some blame for that because he called the plays. The receivers also dropped balls, and the Oline did not block well. But JJ is not exonerated. It is a team game. Minus a pick 6, the same guys on TF would have crucified Lee for the same stats and would have laid the lion's share, if not all of the blame at his feet. It's unfair to Lee, and unfair to JJ. Equally so in regards to credit.

    Just for fun, here is what JJ did in the second half after our touchdown drive. He was 1-8, with three sacks. Go back and watch the game again. As I have said several times, all things considered, he did quite well. I expect he will be better in the bowl game and next year.

    2nd-7, LSU15 8:30 J. Jefferson incomplete pass to the right
    3rd-7, LSU15 8:28 J. Jefferson sacked by M. Sheppard
    3rd-5, Ark38 6:30 J. Jefferson incomplete pass to the right
    2nd-10, Ark49 11:15 J. Jefferson incomplete pass to the left
    3rd-10, Ark49 11:15 J. Jefferson incomplete pass to the right
    1st-10, LSU20 9:45 J. Jefferson sacked by J. Nelson
    2nd-12, LSU18 9:10 J. Jefferson incomplete pass to the right
    3rd-12, LSU18 9:06 J. Jefferson rushed up the middle for no gain
    2nd-9, LSU26 4:45 J. Jefferson passed to R. Dickson to the right for 8 yard gain
    3rd-1, LSU34 4:30 J. Jefferson rushed up the middle for 6 yard gain
    3rd-5, LSU45 2:30 J. Jefferson sacked by M. Sheppard and M. Smith
    1st-10, Ark46 0:16 J. Jefferson incomplete pass down the middle
    2nd-10, Ark46 0:10 J. Jefferson incomplete pass to the right
     
  6. LSU Engineer

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    I totally agree on Tolliver. I think he has been a big disappointment so far. He finally started to play a little better down the stretch of this season. What ever happened to Ricky Dixon?

    :crystal:
     
  7. CajunPunk

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    I'm not getting personal. Just shedding light on how butt hurt you get when someone disagrees with you/LSU. The koolaid must be purple is all I'm saying.

    Show me one time when Lee looked off a safety or looked for an open receiver, and I'll introduce you to the tooth fairy.
     
  8. TheDude

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    Defending my side of a debate is not getting "butt hurt". It's called debate. Resorting to personal attacks instead of attacking my statements is your call. If you can't recognize the difference, that's your problem. And your standard fallback line with anyone that doesn't agree with your bashing of Lee, Miles, Crowton, the DCs, or any other player is to call them koolaid drinkers. Again, you choose to get personal instead of accepting someone disagrees with you and proving them wrong.

    What are you even talking about here? Have you seen me at any time state that Lee looked off the safety? What does this have to do with anything I have stated in this thread?
     
  9. CajunPunk

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    ugh

    Yeah, and he just figured out how to look off a safety in his first start, whereas Lee couldn't figure out how to do it in 11 games. The coaches should have been playing him long before Arky. They dropped the ball this year.

    But Byrd's attitude was stinking it up all year, and so was his play, while Toliver rode the bench for the majority of the season. Byrd started every game, despite Toliver's success.

    But I guess the coaches knew better.
     
  10. NELA_Tigerfan

    NELA_Tigerfan When's kickoff?

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    I would have liked to see JJ earlier this year as well, but there is alot more to consider besides how he looks off safeties. I'll trust the coaches this time, but next year should be wide open.
     

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