Tyson drops Labor Day holiday for Eid al-Fitr

You can do better than that.

chief? stop your liberal condescending bs. I wasn't debating historical fact, just the labels.

:rolleye33: You have no idea, do you

 

You can't debate Christianity by quoting O.T. scripture. But I wouldn't expect you to know that.

 

Simply accepting historical figures as Christian because they claim to be so is, to me, error. I'm suggesting that these labels be applied by judging their actions according to the religious creeds they claim to uphold.

Errors? You were referring to history books, I wasn't referring to historical fact. You discredit yourself.

Those calling themselves Christian when their actions are clearly contrary to Christian beliefs.

That's funny. Dismiss whatever you can't effectively argue, isn't that the liberal way?

:lol:

Sure did, you ever go to Sunday school? You know the difference between the O.T. and N.T.? For starters, there are fundamental differences in the will of God for the O.T. Jewish state and N.T. Christians. What you attempted to pass off as an example of Christian violence had nothing to do with Christians.

 

i was taught not that the OT was invalidated but certainly less relevant because of the NT. god made a covenant with the jews through ibrahim :yelwink2: in the OT. jesus was a new covenant, replacing the old one. the old system of sacrifices etc to get to heaven were replaced by grace through jesus.

the golden rule alludes to this as well.

but i do think there are a large % of christians (probably a large majority) that dont realize this.

i half agree with 71 here. you cant fault christianity for wackos that do crap in the name of christianity. but you also cant fault islam for its wackos, even if it has more (or more fervent) wackos. id assume none of us know the koran enough to evaluate it. anyone can pick out verses but that's not very valuable.

my elementary understanding of islam is that quite contrary to christianity, the interpretations of the koran are considered equal or nearly equal to the koran itself. supposedly because of the unusual nature of the koran, as a sort of poem. because of this, and other things, preexisting cultures play a large role in the way islam is practiced.

 

not so much the subject of the holiday, but of somali muslims working in a kosher meat processing plant. i found it interesting because of the working relationship of two very different religions and cultures, but in a way that seems to be working.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080809/ap_on_re_us/immigration_raid_somalis

 

All I can say is wow!

I got in on this one late but I really cannot believe that any American can support the dropping of Labor Day, a yearly national tribute to the contributions workers have made to the strength, prosperity, and well-being of our country, and replacing it with wip-van-snitsal or whatever the f it's called.

 

And that's part of what I'm tryin to say. If someone does something stupid, like murder ie, and claims to have done it because they were Christian/Muslim then review the standards of their faith. For example, murder is contrary to the Christian faith whereas the Koran advocates the killing of infidels. So is someone a wacko who kills in the name of Islam?