Trump, his Taxes and the Russians

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  1. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    No, no, no. This just isn't nice. I wasn't gonna answer you initially since you went all Melania but you seemed emotionally distraught and needy for attention so I went the extra mile for you. And this is what I get? So, so sad.

    Okay, I addressed nearly every one of your points and either provided contrary evidence, accepted the truth, or said what the hell does it matter? Donald was a private business man who dealt with foreign investors. So what! Where is the PROOF that there is a direct link between the money he received and Putin or his minions? There is none.

    You (Josh really) claimed that Trump had been blackballed by American banks but I disproved that too. Can you respond to that falsehood?

    But hey, if you want to play the Gong Show version of allegatory parsification, I'm in. I noticed you didn't respond to Hillary having signed off on a business deal giving a Russian company 1/5 of the uranium production rights in America. And then of course Bill received a shitload of money for talking to them and Hillary never declared that income despite promising Obama that she would. Talk about your ties to Russian money and in this case, something scarier....uranium production. That's just a tad bit worse as the Secretary of State than Donald building buildings.

    How about this.....

    "A shadowy Bermudan company that has funneled tens of millions of dollars to anti-fracking environmentalist groups in the United States is run by executives with deep ties to Russian oil interests and offshore money laundering schemes involving members of President Vladimir Putin’s inner circle.

    One of those executives, Nicholas Hoskins, is a director at a hedge fund management firm that has invested heavily in Russian oil and gas. He is also senior counsel at the Bermudan law firm Wakefield Quin and the vice president of a London-based investment firm whose president until recently chaired the board of the state-owned Russian oil company Rosneft.

    In addition to those roles, Hoskins is a director at a company called Klein Ltd. No one knows where that firm’s money comes from. Its only publicly documented activities have been transfers of $23 million to U.S. environmentalist groups that push policies that would hamstring surging American oil and gas production, which has hurt Russia’s energy-reliant economy.

    With oil prices plunging as a result of a fracking-induced oil glut in the United States, experts say the links between Russian oil interests, secretive foreign political donors, and high-profile American environmentalists suggest Russia may be backing anti-fracking efforts in the United States.

    The interest of Russian oil companies and American environmentalist financiers intersect at a Bermuda-based law firm called Wakefield Quin. The firm acts as a corporate registered agent, providing office space for clients, and, for some, “managing the day to day affairs,” according to its website.

    As many as 20 companies and investment funds with ties to the Russian government are Wakefield Quin clients. Many list the firm’s address on official documentation.

    Klein Ltd. also shares that address. Documents filed with Bermuda’s registrar of companies list just two individuals associated with the company: Hoskins, Wakefield Quin senior counsel and managing director, and Marlies Smith, a corporate administrator at the firm.

    According to documents filed with Bermuda’s registrar of companies, Klein Ltd. was incorporated in March 2011 “exclusively for philanthropic purposes,” meaning “no part of the net earnings … inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual.”

    “The company does not propose to carry on business in Bermuda,” the documents stated.

    The only publicly available documentation of any business conducted by Klein Ltd. were two Internal Revenue Service filings by the California-based Sea Change Foundation, which showed that Klein had contributed $23 million to the group in 2010 and 2011. Klein Ltd. was responsible for more than 40 percent of contributions to Sea Change during those years.

    The foundation passed those millions along to some of the nation’s most prominent and politically active environmentalist groups. The Sierra Club, the Natural Resource Defense Council, Food and Water Watch, the League of Conservation Voters, and the Center for American Progress were among the recipients of Sea Change’s $100 million in grants in 2010 and 2011.

    Neither Wakefield Quin nor Sea Change responded to multiple requests for more information about their relationships with Klein Ltd.

    “None of this foreign corporation’s funding is disclosed in any way,” the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee wrote of the company in a report last year. “This is clearly a deceitful way to hide the source of millions of dollars that are active in our system, attempting to effect political change.”
    http://freebeacon.com/issues/foreig...oups-tied-to-state-owned-russian-oil-company/

    Here's what's funny about Hillary and fracking. Back on 2014 she was YUGE on fracking....outside the US. She encouraged a host of other countries to pursue the practice and did dirty deals with oil companies.
    http://www.motherjones.com/environm...inton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron

    But here we are in an election year, she knows how to seduce a voting block like Greenies who went for Sanders. Funny how her tune changes.
    http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/03/hillary-clinton-debate-fracking


    If you want to chase windmills as they blow air across Donald's combover, then fine but let's be honest about Hillary....it may be the only honesty that bitch gets.
     
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  2. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    Going on 7
     
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  3. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    Loving this country is why I put my life on the line, why I won't vote for trump, why I share with others all the horrible info I read about trump, why I don't continually post about putting bullets in people's heads.
     
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  4. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    A MSNBC video. Really?

    As Red would say, videos dont debate back.
     
  5. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    The fact that you linked other links in your OP and not the original al content is stretchy. You back tracking is the SAME shit you accuse Trump of doing.

    And I am supposed to take you and your "opinions" seriously?

    Let me ask you.


    WHAT LAWS HAS THE TRUMP BORKEN?
     
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  6. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    And disregard the the exponentially worse things that WC has done. Right I see
     
  7. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    To be fair I tried to in another thread but it went nowhere. No big deal though right, no rules for Trump.
     
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  8. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Trump could be found fucking a 9 year old boy and they would still vote for him.
     
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    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Edwin Edwards said the only way he could lose would be if he were caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy. The wretched cunt could strangle puppies on live TV aand the sheeple would still vote for her.
     
  10. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    To be fair, I linked his original post with all my rebuttals....originals I might add. It went nowhere because most of Melania's points were debunked.

    I have to ask....is Trump the only American businessman to accept Russian money? Is there something illegal in it? Is there any actual proof that the money he received is tied to Putin? See, y'all are now stuck in the same defense that was used to defend Hillary's private server. There's no proof, so......

    And the ties between Hillary and Russian money and Hillary and a whole bunch of dirty money is far more evident, yet I don't see that being discussed. I know you aren't voting for her. I'm short on time this morning but I will point out Johnson's absolute hypocrisy as soon as I get a chance.
     

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