Trump, his Taxes and the Russians

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  1. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    Sweetness my ass. No one calls you that with your clothes on.
     
  2. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    Neither, she simply further expounded upon the blog by giving more details and actually citing references. The argument that USC and I were having is whether or not Trump has been blackballed by the US banks. I referenced the article because it clearly states that they will not loan to him anymore. She has ignored this fact and tried to make this about the author of the article, which is immaterial to me. It's the facts that I am interested in.
     
  3. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Actually she gave evidence of US banks loaning him money.

    Yet, you ignore that like you usually do.
     
  4. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    It doesn't matter. You and I were arguing over whether Trump has been blackballed by US banks so thank you for posting exactly what I am talking about......he hasn't been able to get a loan from US banks since the 90's. That is being blackballed....the entire point of my post.

    Semantics. Why does it matter if they used the word blackballed? By your own admission the article I cited clearly states that US banks have not been willing to loan to Trump since the 90's. If that's not blackballed then I don't know what is.

    You have already done this for me. In fact, I find it curious that you claim that you cannot see the article yet you just cited a quote from the article that is toward the end. Further, your most recent post quotes, "Trump hasn't been able to get a loan from US banks since the 90's"

    I guess you are going to tell me that you believe Trump is actually worth 10 billion. Funny....very funny.
     
  5. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    please pile on.....in case you haven't noticed I am used to it and it doesn't bother me at all.
     
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  6. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    No she didn't. She cited a reference that showed that Trump has borrowed from Deutsche Bank, a German bank. He has not borrowed money from US banks since the 90's because they will not lend to him.
     
  7. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Well she did. She referenced the New Jersey firms......

    I dont think you researched all your links.

    1: Bloomberg's numbers were an estimate and they clearly stated that.
    2: There is no FACTUAL evidence of US banks blackballing him.
    3: Deutshce Bank has US subsidiaries.
    4: If you are to claim that these are all "Germans" then the Germans make up most of his "debt". Not Russia.
    5: Trumps Financials he disclosed showed 16 loans from 11 lenders.
    6: There is NO evidence of banks Blackballing him. Rather, he has chosen other banks for mostly deal related reasons.
    7: Even the high of the estimates of his debt are minuscule in the low estimates of his worth, 3 Billion.

    Nothing your plagiarized OP stated is backed by any facts. Just wishful thinking.
     
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  8. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    It isn't the facts you are interested in. You dismissed my source out of hand. That makes YOU the one who has made this about authorship, quality, credibility, etc. The author is not immaterial because you brought that point into the discussion. We can't move on with the debate and sources when you are being dishonest about what happened.

    Again, since you clearly have a WSJ subscription and can read the entire article and I can't, please cut and paste the actual quote and source, where the article says, "US banks will not give loans to Donald Trump anymore."
     
  9. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    It mattered to you when you dismissed my source as nothing but a blog.

    Both you and your post were WRONG. I have given you multiple sources to show that he not only has a loan from Amboy Bank and Ladder Capital, but several other small non-Wall St banks. The 90's ended 16.5 years ago. Trump has built a shit ton of stuff in that time.....Deutsch has not loaned all the required capital for that.

    This....is....rich. You dismiss MY source because it's a blog and doesn't meet journalistic standards but now you think it doesn't matter if a source you relied on gives a description of Trump's banking which is not exactly true?


    There hasn't been one quote in any source that says such a thing. The comments have been about major Wall St banks and even THEY admitted they don't do much, if any, because Trump has moved in another direction.


    I can't see the article. I've tried to screen shot what it looks like for non-subscribers but with no success. The public, like me, can see the first 4 or 5 lines, then nothing else.

    My God you are a dumbass......the post quote about Trump not being able to get a loan since the 90's was YOUR quote from earlier in the thread when you questioned my source.

    READ CAREFULLY: I typed, "Well, yes.....because YOU made a point of questioning my source. According to you, blogs are not to be believed because they are merely opinion and are lacking in spelling and grammar. You said, "I am exactly right. Here you go....here is an article from the WSJ....an real article....not a blog post....that very clearly states that Trump hasn't been able to get a loan from US banks since the 90's." But your source was MY source. "

    No. I am going to tell you that you screwed up and now for some reason, you won't own it. Fine. You've been about bled to death so I'll let go. Even a pit bull gets tired.
     
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  10. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Put some salve on that and it'll feel better in a few days
     

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