Trump blames both sides

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  1. Rex

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    I fully recognize that racists are not capable of objectivity.
     
  2. Rex

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  3. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    True

    Not true. If you will look at my past posts you will see why this isn't true. The notion that most of the Confederates didn't know what they were fighting for has always been part of the Lost Cause Fallacy that was essentially written after the Civil War as an explanation, a purification if you will, of what happened. This story was mainly written by confederate generals and prominent members of the confederate administration. Those soldiers knew what they were fighting about.
     
  4. el005639

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    On this we disagree...no way the guys for fighting for someone else to own slaves.
     
  5. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    Black Lives Matter didn't kill those cops. Why would he condemn them?

    Obama's quote right after the one you've listed above about the Dallas shootings was this:
    you conveniently left this part out.

    Pissed? Cause you seemed pissed....
     
  6. kcal

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    that's why I want you to be more objective
     
  7. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    fair enough and to be honest neither of us was there so our opinions are just that. i am sure that there were some who were more aware than others, depending upon rank and being privy to information.
     
  8. Rex

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    Non-slaveholders didn't have much say in the matter of secession. That issue was determined mostly by state legislatures dominated by slave owners, rich people, and business associates of those. People on the lower rungs of Southern economics were nevertheless motivated by territorial racism.... no matter how lowly their economic station they felt themselves racially superior to black people, and didn't want that changed.... an aspect of motivation that still lingers to an alarming degree this far past the Civil War. Those non-slaveholders were also caught between a rock and a hard place.... there was a fair chance that secession would succeed in forming a new country, whereafter their non-participation in the cause would be judged and then punished by more powerful people who controlled their livelihoods.

    I've always felt that the non-slaveholding Confederate soldier is the most pathetic figure in American history, and I don't apologize for stating so.
     
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  9. el005639

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    Your still an ass clown
     
  10. Rex

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    Let's face it... if this board were attached to a more educated and enlightened group... say, to Stanford or even Wisconsin.. I'd be constantly applauded by American patriots instead of reviled by spurious, greedy, and racist conservatives.
     

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