hong kong is a tiny percentage of chinese folks, who had decades of freedom to learn to like it. mainland chinese are fucking pissed at them. they are disowning their HK cousins and shit, calling them shitbag treasonous american puppets. china is becoming more and more authoritarian by the day, and they love it. you would think chinese hate the internet restrictions. they love them. they say good, fuck the bad outside influences. free press can eat a dick. they hate freedom and are working to reduce it. i have been to venezuela. its crazy. there are millions that love chavez and what he did. i have seen them march in the streets with signs praising him. and they are serious. they hate the american capitalists and their freedom. they are "for the workers". of course they dont realize that every "workers party" is really authoritarian bullshit. but they are not sophisticated. they dont think like you and me. you have to keep in mind something, and this is very racist: the US is a high IQ country with different people with different ideas. same with most other free countries. the american freedom-loving protestant sort of ethic is not universal. not close. russians love putin. if their election was fair, they would elect him. same with other authoritarians. i have also been to the phillipines, i asked about duterte. i asked a guy i thought was fairly sophisticated. this is what he said "this isnt america. our people are not the same. we need a strong leader. we have different problems than you have." you hear variants of this everywhere. one time i was in morocco, at a soccer game. kids didnt want to buy a ticket, they wanted to smash down the fence and all go run in for free. so they had riot cops at the games. kids threw rocks at them and tried to smash the ticket office. the cops beat them with bats. it was no big deal to them. i asked a guy. what the fuck, why dont these kids buy tickets? then the cops wont have to beat the fuck out of them. he said "bro. this isnt europe. people here are different". that stuck with me. not everyone voluntarily likes order and stability and freedom. some people like authority and want beatdowns to force them to behave. people needed saddam. they need chavez and putin. people have the sort of govt they want, for the most part. ever seen that show, the dog whisperer? that guy teaches you to fucking be the master, the leader of the pack. tell your goddamn dog who is boss. thats what your dog wants, it makes him happy. he is sad and nervous when you let him run rampant. discipline that bitch. thats what people like. they want a boss. they fear freedom.