Military Trump abandons the Kurds

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  1. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 Boobies make everything A OK!!!

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    I would like to point out there is only 1 democracy in the ME and the left would rather they be gone.....
     
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    Tiger in NC It's Been Long Enough

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    See, I answered your question but you won't answer mine. Isn't that called hypocritical my friend. I told you that I don't know how long we need to stay but I feel certain, based on the opinions of people with a lot more knowledge than myself, that Monday was much too soon. @Winston1 makes a good point...why Monday in the middle of the night? You see what is happening right now. Did Erdogan cross Trump's red line? Didn't Trump say he would destroy the Turkish economy if they did?

    fair question and I think we can have a thoughtful debate about this subject. I am pressed for time today but I would genuinely like to have a thread just on this topic.

    not all of them, many are Christians
     
  3. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 Boobies make everything A OK!!!

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    What is Trumps red line?




    Many? 87% of Syria is Muslim.....
     
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    Syria is a large country and the Kurds occupy a very small portion of it. Why do you think Pat Robertson was on his network saying that Trump would "lose the mandate of Heaven" if he allowed the Turks to wipe out the Kurds? Many of them are Christian...look it up.
     
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    But 75% of the Kurds are Muslim as well.
     
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    LSUpride123 Boobies make everything A OK!!!

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    How has Turkey crossed it? They aren't just bombing random targets.....
     
  7. Jmg

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    all of this is exactly true.

    our mistake in the ME has been imagining that everyone is like americans, wanting freedom and human rights and democracy. there are billions of people on earth who very angrily do not want that.

    it was well-intended, our adventures in the area. we always wanted peace and stabilty for the people. we never did this for oil or money or any of that shit. but the fact is that some folks dont want to live in free democracy. hard for us to understand, and we have tragically failed to see it, but its true. billions of people hate freedom.
     
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  8. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    So start one.
     
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    I think you’re very much wrong about that. What is happening in Hong Kong, in Russia (the largest anti Putin protest in years) in Iran in Venezuela and even in parts of the Middle East? Syria started because there was a strong movement to oust Bashad and it likely would have succeeded except OBAMA let the Russians in. That little pencil necked shit should have been impeached for that. There is action for freedom....aren’t the HK protesters wearing American flags? No at this time there is too much power in bad government hands but the push for freedom is strong. It’s uneven and maybe halting but it’s underlying strength is obvious. Unfortunately Trump is carrying out the final act initiated by OBAMA. He cows to dictators in Russia, China, Saudi Arabia that is a stain on our honor.
     
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    Probably because they want to replace him with some Islamic fundamentalist holy man. Just because we have freedom and many Asians and Latinos want it too doesn't mean that there aren't billions of muslims to whom freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.

    Well they look to the east
    They look to the west
    The Third World wonders
    Which way's the best
    We got freedom, we got soul
    We got blue jeans and rock'n roll
    Man, there ain't no choice
    It's better in the U.S.A.
    (It's better in the U.S.A.)
    You can be what you want
    Say what you wanna say
    (It's better in the U.S.A.)
    Why can't I make you understand
    It's better in the U.S.A.
    (It's better in the U.S.A.)
    I hear the same propaganda
    Day after day
    It's gettin' so hip to knock the U.S.A.
    If we're so awful and we're so bad
    You oughta check the night life
    In Leningrad
    Man, it ain't even close
    It's better in the U.S.A.
    (It's better in the U.S.A.)
    If you could see behind the curtain
    Life is cold and grey
    (It's better in the U.S.A.)
    How can I make you understand
    It's better in the U.S.A.
    (It's better, it's better)
    I think I'll play
    Nobody's perfect and change comes slow
    It's really up to you
    Which way you wanna go
    You can lean to the left
    And lean to the right
    You can stand in the dark
    You can stand in the light
    Drivin' on the beach
    On a night in June
    Me and my baby
    In the lover's moon
    They're playin' sweet soul music
    Got it turned up loud
    Make me feel so good
    Make me feel so proud
    Man, there ain't no choice
    It's better in the U.S.A.
    (It's better in the U.S.A.)
    Well they'd be movin' here from Moscow
    If they could only find a way
    (It's better in the U.S.A.)
    How can I make you understand
    It's better in the U.S.A., baby baby
    (It's better)
    We got the burgers and fries
    (In the U.S.A.)
    We got the friendly skies
    (In the U.S.A.)
    We got the beautiful girls
    (In the U.S.A.)
    Got the beautiful curls
    (In the U.S.A.)
    We're drivin' beautiful cars
    (In the U.S.A.)
    We're diggin' movie stars
    (In the U.S.A.)
    We get to make romance
    (In the U.S.A.)
    Let the little girl dance
    (In the U.S.A.)
    It's better, baby
    Nice sweater, baby
    What do you say you and me go for a little drive.
    Come on.
    It's better (Repeat and fade)
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    Songwriters: Glenn Lewis Frey / Jack Tempchin
    Better In The U.S.A. lyrics © Red Cloud Music, Night River Publishing
     

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