Tom DeLay Indicted

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  1. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    Yes they did. Evacuation began with Grand Isle and worked its way up through Plaqumine, St Benard, Orleans, and Jefferson Parish. Contraflow began 20 hours prior to expected landfall. The evacuation was a mircale seeing as how it occured in less than 40 hours when 72 is required for complete evacuation.
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    What were their specific failures, Sourdough?

    An awful lot of people were sucessfully evacuated, all according to a careful plan refined during the last two hurricanes. It is a cold hard fact that by the time one can predict a hurricanes projected path, it is already too late to effectively evacuate New Orleans. Unlike all other Gulf coast cities, New Orleans sits many miles out into the marshes with a giant lake at its back, the biggest river on the continent in its front, and many miles from high ground. Biloxi has many roads radiating quickly into the uplands. New Orleans has three narrow exit routes all crossing open water with the high ground a hundred miles away.

    It has been known that 200,000+ people would have no means to evacuate or simply would not leave. But everybody else (1.3 million) was sucessfully evacuated. At least according to plan.

    But the plan also expected well-equipped hospitals to "evacuate vertically" and ride out the storm. They also expected the shelters like the Superdome to ride out the storm for 36-72 hours and then the people could go home. The plan did not account for the major levee failures and flooding. The plan did not account for FEMA footdragging and mismanagement.

    The state and city followed the plan, it was just an inadequate plan and it had been prepared years earlier and constantly refined. Fault for the inadequate plan must be asssumed in large measure by the congress and the legislatures who ignored the warnings and recommendations of the academic experts and failed to fund the measures needed to fix the levees and restore the coastal marshes.

    Everything would have been diffferent if the levees hadn't failed. The Corps of Engineers is going to be held responsible for this levee disaster. It is their job. If the seawall design turns out to be inadequate or improperly made, heads will roll at the Corps.
     
  3. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Oh no, I'm not going around this circle again, we've rehashed and gone around this 3 and 4 times.
    Its all there in LSUSupafans thread about the conference call.
    Red,
    You even submitted an article from NPR that said the city strayed from their evacuation procedures.
    I even have an article there from the Houston Chronicle.
    I don't have the time nor am i that bored, to re-write the same material besides It would take up more bandwith.
    If you guys would've read the material you wouldn't be asking the same
    old questions would you?

    You guys want to argue for the sake of arguing.
     
  4. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    All I have read from you is an index finger extended twords the people pf Louisiana.
     
  5. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Classy post.
    There are plenty of stories all over the net, nbc, msnbc, cnn, abc.
    It tells stories about FEMA as well as state and local agencies.
    I even have posted them all over here which you choose to ignore.
    You and Red just want me to run around in circles while you guys don't
    read the stuff or whatever.

    I didn't write the story Red provided from NPR about the evacuation procedures or the Houston Chronicle.
    I didn't write the story at MSNBC or ABC or any of the other networks.
    I haven't written one story anywhere other than posting the truth of
    the matter here at this forum.

    I'm starting to think you are a liberal, you act like one.
    You can't disprove anything that I've said cause its in black and white
    so all you can do is attack the messenger.
    Typical!

    Believe whatever you want, I'm sorry I ruined your reality! :)
    Btw thats so christian of you :dis: :cry:
     

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