The fact that we tolerate people who want to suppress the opinions of others does. So, yes. But, spoken of as a system of government, the question becomes a contradiction. You're right. It'd be much better if we all looked and thought exactly alike. That sounds really exciting. Maybe we could create a 'master race.' Of course, you could do withouth them. If you couldn't do without them, they'd be your opinions. Again, of course. Everyone thinks everyone else's opinions besides their own are 'pretty terrible.' Otherwise, everyone would agree.
if everyone had the same opinions about politics that i do, we would be a far better country. our strength is not in our diversity. thats just a buzzphrase you have been taught. it doesnt help us any that people have stupid opinions. it helps us when people have opinions that are right. if diversity is good, is it a net positive that some people are christians or militatnt islamic crazies? does that diversity help us?
Duh. Everyone thinks that. Differentiation between the two is impossible if both are not acknowledged. You can't literally say that people have opinions that are 'right.' People can have opinions that you agree with, but I'm sure you're aware of their subjective nature. It may help you if people have opinions that you agree with. On top of that, opinions can be strengthened or weakened when subjected to opposition. A person can either have their beliefs reinforced by an opposing viewpoint, or they can be shown where their train of thought misled them. Either way, if that individual is tolerant and not too stubborn, their opinion can be strengthened through diversity. A net positive? Yes. Because without the freedoms bestowed upon Americans to make that choice, we'd live in a society that is as bad, or perhaps much worse off, than the radical ideals of said groups.
you are confusing the freedom to have ideas with the ideas themselves. diversity is not necessarily good, freedom is. but you have heard people say that our strength is our diversity so many times that you have learned to say it yourself. if we had no radical muslims in america, we would be a better place, but less diverse. diversity is not a strength, freedom is. freedom allows diversity, which isnt always good.
But withouth the freedom to have ideas, the ideas would never exist. Diversity is good. Things you don't like are not good as percieved by you. This is a very basic philosophical principle. You have to take the good with the bad sometimes. If you believe that freedom is, by itself, intrinsically good, then you must also believe that all things which occur as a result of freedom are also good. Not true at all. I don't recall hearing anyone say that. I'm sorry if it bothers you so badly that I believe something you deem as cliche' that you refuse to accept that I actually believe it. Say it again, if it makes you feel better. But I don't take my beliefs off of anyones shelf. No, not always. Sometimes you don't like things that are different from what you believe. Sometimes you are afraid of them. Sometimes they harm people. But if you want to get into the specifics of every instance in which diversity may or may not be good just to prove a point, you'll drive yourself crazy. As a whole, however, diversity benefits and strengthens, not only America, but many of the facets and groups within it.
if diversity is intrinsically good, then everything is good. everything isnt good. many things are bad. i realize that. that doesnt make the bad things good. think about what you say before you say it. that makes no sense at all. plenty of things people are free to do are terrible and make everything worse. i didnt say anything bothers me, only that you are incorrect. try to not to make things up so much please. try hard to stay on the issue. correct. i am scared of radical muslims. their diversity is bad. how can you not understand that. when i see muslims on the streets preaching for converts, that is bad. i hope no one listens to them. i wish they would shut up and go away. i pray that they dont spread their ideas and increase the diversity of opinion. i hope their ideas die with them. do you think it would be good for baton rouge to bring in many more radical muslims? it certainly would make baton rouge a more diverse community.
Funny. You pretty much used the exact same argument right here: You are getting entirely too vague to even hold a substantial argument. It is good, and yes a strength, to have a diverse society. That is my opinion, which I believe is right. Not everything that results from that any sort of diversity, or anything else, for that matter, is good. Everyone knows that. But I'd rather live in a society composed of different individuals that have and practice different beliefs that one that is completely homogenous. This statement comes right after you made up that little tidbit about me repeating a particular phrase. How odd. What leads you to believe that I 'don't understand' other than the fact that we are in a disagreement over whether or not diversity is good? No need to get remedial.
maybe diversity is good. i think we should start importing nazis and communists and pedophiles. with their opinions we could really get a wonderful dialogue going, and have more diversity in opinions. maybe some of those old school people who believe in zeus and poseidon. and lets not forget to teach intelligent design as well as reality. always gotta be diverse. nothing is wrong as long as it is different. down with rationality and reason. logic is bad.
It's not a new indictment.........it's to correct the first stupid indictment. http://drudgereport.com/flash1.htm
If you can't adhere to a reasonable argument, just make up something completely off the wall and express it sarcastically. That'll really drive the point home.:thumb:
