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TIME TO MOVE FORWARD- Forget Nick...Who's Your Top 5 Choices?

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MarineTiger Founding Member

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I want Butch Davis.
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1) Screwed one school over...

2) Hated by all of his players at the NFL

3) Hated by all the management at the NFL

No thanks.

MarineTiger, Dec 26, 2004

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jimbo!

c'mon...give him a chance...he's earned it!

amato? :rofl:

CarolinaTiger, Dec 26, 2004

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Jack Del Rio isn't going to leave Jacksonville for LSU. Jacksonville is a young team and will be very good for a long time especially when Byron Leftwich shows consistency. Realistically, I would like to see LSU hire one of the following:
1) Norm Chow. Offensive genius. He has the track record at BYU and USC of developing quarterbacks. He is the best choice for LSU in my opinion.
2) Butch Davis: Proven college head coach and very good recruiter. He has ties to Florida that would help in recruiting for the Tigers.
3) Romeo Crennel. He is another Belichick disciple and a good defensive minded coach. The big problem with him is he would be linked to every NFL job like Saban
Long shot: Mike Shanahan. He reportedly is unhappy with the Broncos and has been linked to college jobs in the past ( U of Florida). He is known for his run block schemes and could do alot with LSU's O-Line.
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Come on man like you said, be realistic! There is no chance that Norm Chow would leave USC for LSU.

GxLSU1, Dec 26, 2004

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Why are some excited over Norm Chow? I'd take him as OC in a second, and I'd love to see him develop Jamarcus Russell, but he was passed over at BYU. Why? Did Lavell Edwards not think his long-term assistant could get it done?

Lots of questions there--and he's not a young guy. He's less than 10 years from retirement.

The points being made about a younger guy who's in a position like Saban was five years ago is intriguing. But would that just put us in a lurch with the NFL carrots being placed in front of the new guy every year?

StaceyO, Dec 26, 2004

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Tedford would be at the top of my list. He's a quality coach and recruiter, and he has a long history of developing great college quarterbacks. We could certainly use someone like that.

Scribbler, Dec 26, 2004

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Tedford just re-signed with Cal and is said to be interested in the 49'ers job as a future job.....Saban'ish.....no thank you

MarineTiger, Dec 26, 2004

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Butch Davis, if he wants the job, should be his without question.

He was a horrible fit for the NFL, but a great fit at Miami.

His "itch" for the NFL was extinguished/satisfied, and now he will be a college coach from here on in. LSU could be looking at a head coach for the next 20 plus years.

He took a team that was on probation and within 5 years should have been playing for the NC in 2000, but fell just short. The Miami Hurricanes, made up of entirely Butch Davis' players, won that NC in 2001.

Norm Chow may be the only OC/DC I would consider at the college ranks. I think he is the best offensive mind that the college game has to offer. My only reservation about him is the report that he said he was not really interested in becoming a head coach. Not exactly what you wanna hear from a guy you would be hiring as your next head coach.

Dennis Erickson will be successful at the college level again, should he ever return. My concern with him is the mess he left at Miami.

islstl, Dec 26, 2004

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iowasteam said:

I love that LSU pompous attitude that you could even have
a remote chance of getting Ferentz.
Of course we would be just as hopeful as you all if we were in your position.
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Call it pompous if you like, but LSU has proven that it will pay their head coach more than any other college in the country. Couple that with top 5 facilities and a top 5 stadium (93,000 and soon to grow) along with #1, #15. #1 and #2 recruiting classes over the last 4 years and you are naive if you think that Iowa is currently on par with LSU from a coaching standpoint. Not to mention La is probably the most talent rich football state in the country.

5 years ago I would have agreed with you. But when you look at what this university has agreed to do for its coaches and student athletes, this is a top tier coaching job in the country right now.

uscpuke, Dec 26, 2004

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islstl said:

Butch Davis, if he wants the job, should be his without question.

He was a horrible fit for the NFL, but a great fit at Miami.

His "itch" for the NFL was extinguished/satisfied, and now he will be a college coach from here on in. LSU could be looking at a head coach for the next 20 plus years.

He took a team that was on probation and within 5 years should have been playing for the NC in 2000, but fell just short. The Miami Hurricanes, made up of entirely Butch Davis' players, won that NC in 2001.
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My question to people that want Davis here.....why would you want such a low-class man running our school?

He screwed Miami over by telling EVERYONE, including players, that he was not leaving Miami...then bolted without even telling his players and many of his coaches.

And then every player at Cleveland hated him for lying to them and creating a horrible atmosphere.

Listen to these quotes

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/football/10488144.htm?1c

Speaking for the first time in nearly three weeks, Garcia made it clear that he didn't think signing with the Browns in March was a mistake. But he said his new teammates warned him about Davis' lying and the atmosphere it created.
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And I am sure you have read the numerous other reports about players slamming him left and right about accountability, trust, and having players 'spy for him'

Uh, huh? Spy on his own players?

I hear stories like this

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] As the story goes (and stop when this starts to sound familiar), Davis, on the flight down, told a nearby reporter that he had no actual desire to take the Miami job, that he was meeting with the university only as a courtesy and, as proof of how little interest he had, as well as how informal the get-together was to be, he pointed out that he had only brought one bag with him, and that one bag was above them in the overhead bin. How could anyone take a one-bag traveling coach serious?

The kicker is that while Davis was denying interest and speaking enthusiastically about going after ring number three with the Cowboys, he had already accepted the job in Miami. And sure enough, after the flight had landed, the reporter next saw Davis at baggage claim, pulling eight additional bags off the carousel.[/font]
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http://www.houstonprofootball.com/slant/slant9.html

I like how CNNSI talked about Butch Davis in their 2001 College Football Pre-Season Magazine

in the wake of Butch Davis’ I-don’t-want-to-go-but-look-at-all-the money-and-control-they’re-throwing-at-me defection to the Cleveland Browns.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/college/2001/preview/mmi/

And I ask myself, do I really trust this guy?

I sure as hell don't.

MarineTiger, Dec 26, 2004

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Another great story about Butch Davis and how he didn't even talk to his college team about his professional terms.

Junior offensive tackle Bryant McKinnie had considered entering the NFL draft this year but decided to stay. Now, the window for declaring has closed. "If I had known this, it probably would have made my decision a little easier," the 6-foot-9, 330-pound McKinnie said. "Hopefully, we can get over this and win a championship."
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http://www.saintpetersburgtimes.com/News/013001/Sports/Davis_leaves_Miami_fo.shtml

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