I would have read you entire post, but I figured War & Peace was shorter so I gave up, but will respond to this at the very least. Your suggestion is that because an athlete is poor in academics(this case math) it has a direct correlation to him being a violent law breaker? I wasn't that good in math and turned out ok. I don't see Miles saying violent problem kids will be recruited, but if a kid has problems with math seems to me it's ok to recruit them. Pretty sure a high % of incoming freshmen have to take additional classes in order to get to college level( I was one of them). I think all those students deserve an education as well.

If this is the basis of your slam against Miles as a coach, then I pretty much don't agree with it.

it is the toughest conference and what you say is true.

However, the problem I see is that while every decent SEC coach has wins where their team just showed up and whipped the other team even if it was a good team, we haven't yet under Miles.

Like Auburn 03. Good team. Yet on first series, we knew it was our night. Or when Auburn played UGA in 04. You saw that game and knew immediately who was going to win. True, we will lose those games, make no mistake. However, its the record I'm looking at and we don't control. that is a problem. we don't take control.

yes saban lost to uab...but there is one thing you can say about saban and thats that he has never just been out coached bye anybody or made bone headed play calls he may have been beat but it was either we were out played that day or some miracle... example lost to iowa

I don't really agree with much at all that you said but it's to much to go through point by point. Basically we get our players from Louisiana and fill in the class with other players from the south, same as we always have. I don't think they are that bad of kids but we will have some discipline problems just like most every school.

For such a terrible coach he has had a pretty good record here at LSU, how do you explain that? Probably just dumbass luck right?

yep

- signed IOWA in the capital one bowl 2004

RP is a time bomb set to go off in the middle of our season next year. He will destroy us because he's a dumb thug and you can't take that out of him. No amount of potential talent outweighs the potential damage he can do to our program.

That will be Miles' legacy.

but we do take control. i gave you two examples this year. look at our last two bowl games. it goes on and on. you need to give up on this point.

if you want to bash miles stick with the penalties talking points. while i was watching the game and that long hester touchdown got brought back i was thinking about calling the les miles show and asking "whose fault is it that early doucet didn't line up right? you've had 12 games to fix this penalty yet our only senior receiver still can't figure it out. so if it's a bad call, so be it, but if it's your fault have fun in ann arbor."

granted i'll never do that, but we are not so much undisciplined, because as far as good behavior we are disciplined. but as far as our players actually knowing the rules... well it seems like they haven't got a fricking clue. how can you be a goddam senior and still not know that you have to be flanking someone or you yourself have to be flanked. how is that possible!?

that's why we lose, not because miles doesn't get us up for the big games. not because he's not a championship coach (because i believe come saturday night he will be). but because we are obviously not teaching the nuances of football to the players. how many times have we been flagged under miles for formation violations?

so you want to bash miles, bash that. but don't bash him because he didn't meet your expectations.

Just to pick two plays out in yesterdays game. what was that 4th & one play with the pass across the field that in my opnion was a very lucky play. second- forth & 10 for arkansas in the overtime & we don't blitz? Shouldn't we have Blitzed in that situation?? Those are weird coaches man... weird.

In defense of Miles, injuries hit us hard this year. i don't need to list them all here, do I?

I really don't see where we were outcoached yesterday. Penalties were down, offensive playcalling was not bad, bad throws in the first half were not coaching errors. We were just worn down after a very physical schedule by a team that just outmuscled us. Again, that's not coaching.

Whether we want to admit it or not, injuries brought our much talked about talent advantage was negated. Our younger guys will do nothing but get better, but right now, parity is a reality.

I'm as disappointed as everyone else, but I'm not throwing our coach under the buss.