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Discussion in 'The Tiger's Den' started by COTiger, Nov 29, 2016.

  1. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village Staff Member

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    I'd say all about being right but in this case it's just about someone else being wrong. I'm surprised it didn't have a nana nana boo boo emoji
     
  2. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    I had thought that was a reference to Honey Boo Boo but since I had absolutely nothing better to do I googled it. There's 10 seconds of my life I'll never get back.
     
  3. lsu_dane

    lsu_dane Founding Member

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    I wasn't making a declaration, I was making an observation. I came here to see what people were saying about the coaching hire (because I know nothing about him) and it appears no one cares about basketball because there was no one saying anything. Where else would I go than a LSU forum for a LSU coaching hire?
     
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  4. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    I was talking about it with a few folks. Hello, I'm nobody.
     
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  5. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    As with just about any coaching hire it's a crap shoot was to whether they'll have any success. In this case, using records at VCU as an indicator of how a coach will do at this level doesn't seem like a good barometer to me.

    Jeff Capel did well. Fired at OU.
    Anthony Grant did well. Fired at UA.
    Shaka Smart did well. He was 11-22 last season at Texas after taking over for Rick Barnes in 2015 (Barnes players, right? [​IMG])

    VCU is definitely as strange story. Just glancing over records I see 10 NCAA appearances in the last 14 years under four different head coaches and none have had success when they moved on to a bigger venue.

    Winning in SEC basketball takes a special coach. Hell, I'm still wondering if we see Howland crash and burn after all the success he had at UCLA.
     
  6. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    [hijack]

    Does he resemble Henry Silva to anyone besides me? He looks like the younger version--IE: the original Oceans 11 cast.

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  7. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    I'll add that the hiring of Trent Jones was widely celebrated. Hope this guy lives up to his billing.
     
  8. northernvatiger

    northernvatiger Founding Member

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    Good points. The grass isn't always greener. That said, VCU folks are tired of being a stepping stone, but I suppose that's the price you pay for being a successful mid-major program. I should note that VCU upgraded its conference affiliation from the CAA to the A-10 five years ago, and just recently built a $25 million basketball practice facility.

    Starting with Capel, here's a breakdown of VCU's recent success, which includes 11 consecutive years of 24 or more wins, and 7 consecutive NCAA Tournament appearances (including the Final Four year of 2011):
    1. Jeff Capel 2002-2006: Overall 79-41 / Conference 50-22 (CAA)
    2. Anthony Grant 2006-2009: Overall 76-25 / Conference 45-9 (CAA)
    3. Shaka Smart 2009-2015: Overall 163-56 / Conference 74-30 (CAA/A-10)
    4. Will Wade 2015-2017: Overall 51-20 / Conference 28-8 (A-10)
    TOTALS: 369-142 (.722) / 197-69 (.741)

    Anyway, we shall see if Wade can be successful at LSU. Seems to me the program requires a total rebuild. VCU currently has a top 25 recruiting class coming in for 2017-18 and I'm sure Wade will try to lure some of those guys to LSU with him. If he does, it will really leave VCU in a bind, as VCU will be losing 5 seniors as it is.
     
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  9. watson1880

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    These are three football schools, I am not expecting anything.
     
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  10. mctiger

    mctiger closet claustrophic Staff Member

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    Trent Johnson, or Johnny Jones?
     
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