this marquise hill situation

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  1. LSUfan71

    LSUfan71 Founding Member

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    Sorry to disagree. I'm just as saddened by the loss, but he was captain of his vessel, apparently rode at night too near the shore and allowed his passenger to be without a life preserver. She swam alone to safety, I fail to see any heroic action, only liability. On a separate note, there's mention of a fiance but no mention that she was the same woman who was with him on the jetski. Hopefully she was just a relative, for the sake of his fiance and family. :(

    I don't mean to be insensitive or offend anyone, just offering some perspective on the matter.
     
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  2. bhelmLSU

    bhelmLSU Founding Member Staff Member

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    We dont know why they went out without life vest, it could have been her idea. Some people never use life vest and that is their option. She also never swam to safety because she was rescued while floating. The lady friend is quoted as saying he saved her life. He made sure she was calm and didnt not fight the current which is why she is probably living today.

    BTW, once someone is engaged it doesnt mean all the girls in your life are thrown out with the trash. It could have even been a friend of his fiance's who he has befriended. Either way I dont see why some are making a big deal about details that are not important for this incident.
     
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  3. LSUfan71

    LSUfan71 Founding Member

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    The first article I read showed that she swam to a pylon and held on to it. I was referring to that as having swam to safety. It appeared to me that he spoke to her after she was holding onto the pylon, trying to keep her calm. There wasn't anything to indicate that he told her to go to the pylon. Only she can say what actually happened.

    I guess it's a personal view but, during my engagement, if I had been out frolicking in the water with a strange woman at night....well, never mind.

    And I agree, the details are not important, I was just saying we should keep things in perspective.
     
  4. bhelmLSU

    bhelmLSU Founding Member Staff Member

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    That is my point, I will reserve the speculation on the details at a later date.

    If the lady friend credits him as saving her life and as a hero, I will do the same.

    RIP
     
  5. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    i do hope you do not live in a glass house

    strange woman? frolicking?

    what if it was a long time family friend that is like a little sister? that's hardly a strange woman. and the word frolicking insinuates something less than appropriate. i have always had male friends that are just that. even when i was engaged and my husband to be was living in another state, the two best friends i hung out with and did everything with were guys. and it was no where near "frolicking".

    as has been pointed out, we don't know the details and they are unimportant. what is important is a young man, that by all accounts was a good and kind person, lost his life.
     
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  6. LSUfan71

    LSUfan71 Founding Member

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    What is that supposed to mean? I was simply offering perspective.

    Ok, maybe that was a bit suggestive. I shouldn't have added more than what was given in the news. Like I said, I hope it was a relative or family friend.
     
  7. Luv4LSU

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    But I can almost understand what LSUfan71 is saying. Not to try and make Hill the bad guy, but what were they doing in the water when they were jet skiing? When you fall off the jet ski, you have a cord on the key that is attached to your wrist, then when removed the ski idles in a 360 degree curve. Now what if they were 'frolicking' and the sun went down and they lost track of the ski because of the rough current? I don't know, I don't want to assume anything. I'm saddened by the accident, but if we are all trying to figure out why, then let's put all the cards on the table. Frankly, I don't think we will ever know what really happened.

    'what if it was a long time family friend that is like a little sister?'

    what if it was, Okie, LSUfan71 is assuming just like you are. I honestly hope it's your idea, tho!

    All we can really say is that anything can happen to anybody at any given time! and never forget to say I LOVE YOU!
     
  8. col reb

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    As I remember it, "frolicking" simply means "playing" and jet skies are for that purpose. Anyhow--prayers sent up. A sad day, anyway you look at it.
     
  9. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Fear the Buoy

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    Some people on here should really be ashamed of themselves. The LSU family loses a great one. A guy that was an absolute beast on D for our National Championship team, a man who was giving up his spare time and money to help the rebuilding efforts in NOLA. A guy who made sure his friend was safe rather than saving himself first. And there are people here questioning his faithfullness to his fiance?!!? WTF?!!? Then others still decide to p!$$ on his grave by bashing him for not wearing a vest?

    What the phuck is wrong with you people?? Of course if he was with a lady, he must have been up to no good right? Did it dawn upon any of you that maybe she was a family friend? A relative? A friend of his fiance'? The girlfriend of an old high school buddy? That maybe just maybe, his fiance' was sitting at the dock/beach where they were all hanging that day enjoying the holiday? That absolutely nothing otherr than a jetski ride was happening? Is there any particular reason some of you seem to want to smear the man's good name shortly after his tragic death?

    I agree that he should have been wearing a life vest. But hanging on to that small detail, and maybe even suggesting him having a lack of intelligence for not wearing one is almost as inconsiderate as insinuating that he was out on the lake "tagging" the other woman. No one here knows why he wasn't wearing it. Giving him sh!t about it after his death is cold hearted. You don't get to his level in athletics without having an @$$load of confidence. Maybe he did feel invincible. Maybe he's ridden them his whole life without ever having or seeing an accident that would convince him to put it on. Just like the god knows how many people that don't wear their seatbelts, sometimes they don't learn the value of them until it's too late. But we don't mock them or call them out for it.

    Give the man a break people. He was a tremendous athlete, and an even better man. He desrves to be remembered and respected in death. Anything less should be considered an embarrassment to Tiger Fans everywhere.

    R.I.P. Marquise.
     
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  10. smttiger

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    Thank you for saying everything I was thinking. Nothing, not even a tragic death is sacred against hurtful comments. Obviously, these people that have bashed this situation have NEVER lost someone very close to them. I have, and arguements over the girl, life vest, his situation and morals arent at ALL the issue. Think of how his mother would feel to be reading over your shoulder.
    RIP Marquise and thank you for all of the wonderful things you did for LSU and this world.
     
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