there are thousands of factors involved in these questions, some of them climate related, others political and economic. to assume that the steps we take will not only help the earth but not do a larger amount of economic damage is impossible to know. one thing we do know is that the proposed solutions are damn expensive. what humans need more than anything is economic development. we might think the environment is some pressing issue, but that is because we are such a relatively rich country that we have lost perspective. i believe the honest numbers show that every dollar spend on climate change will eventually save the lives of like .000000000001 people, but that same dollar could save people like crazy if spent on aids or malaria research. but nobody cares about that. mostly black folks get those diseases.
i am sorry, you are simply ignoring reality and i cant be bothered. but i like how you will discuss either the bashing or the fire, but not both at once.
What possible reason would anyone have to stage such an elaborate conspiracy and then let bin laden take the blame? I mean, really. Use the brain God gave you and just think about it for a minute. You cannot be that stupid.
I will be happy to discuss both at once but I'm not sure which point it is you think I am avoiding. -I grant you the point that Bldg 7 was damaged by events that occured that day. Bashing and fire both took place. Neither one alone or combined would cause a building of that type to collapse neatly in it's own footprint. For God's sake look at he tape, man. It falls down perfectly without a bit of resistance. Buildings like that never do that unless demolitioned. Period. If I am wrong then show me another example where a building like that collapsed in such a fashion and I will add a sig that says, "martin kicked my ass on an internet forum".....ok maybe that's a bit much but I still have not been able to find another example like it.
bush just had to have that precious oil money and he would murder people by the thousands to get it. he is secretly a psychopathic killer and so are thousands and thousands of his cronies. from the 500 guys working the demolition teams to the building maintenance guys that were paid not to notice the installation of charges in the critical support points of their buildings. and al of the administrators and planners, all heartless murderers, drunk on power or oil money, and unwillin gto ever say a word, even now, perhaps afraid of a bullet in the head from dick cheney, who is secretly endowed with the ability to cast a spell of bloodlust over everyone and convince them to murder each other. or maybe the building just got bashed up pretty bad and burned down. either one is possible.
Originally posted by SabanFan: Well, I would assume that the reason would be so that the US would become involved in hostilities against bin laden. But I might be wrong on that. Maybe there was another motivation, I don't know. I admit that it seems far fetched and exactly who put the demolitions in the Bldg is hard to determine. My point remains however that Bldg 7 was brought down on purpose.
not only did bush have wtc 7 demolished, and the office workers all either didnt notice or just kept quiet when the demo guys drilled holes and installed charges in the columns, bush also managed to convince some lunatics to fly 4 different planes into things as a distraction. man, that bush, he can get stuff done. sure, he cant manage the economy worth a damn, but his posse can engineer like 30 different impossibly awesome things to come together on a morning in spetember and get out of it without anyone sane knowing. he even managed to get the lunatics that flew the planes to be muslims, in order to further distract us from him! genius!
Well then, there is no point in continuing this because you are unable to factor common sense into the equation.
sabanfan and i both have worked in office buildings in new york, even buildings in the financial district. we are just the sort of fellas who ignore when guys are bringing demolition charges in and drilling them into support columns.
Originally posted by SabanFan: That doesn't make sense to me. I am not here to provide an all knowing explanation for what takes place in the world. My inability to prove who demolitioned the building and why they did it does not alter the fact that Bldg 7 came down because it was demolitioned. I think you want to avoid that subject and move on to the who and why. Assuming it was a conspiracy then how am I supposed to be able to unravel who did it and why? What am I, a Federal Prosecutor or something? It is enough to say it was demolitioned. Just as it is enough to say that AGW is not supported by the facts. Again, the official story is not supported by the evidence. Why do you people believe it then? Based on what?
