They really think we are that stupid

I laugh at the idea of government conspiracies. I mean, really? Have you been paying attention to our government? What exactly gives someone the confidence that the US Government could actually pull something like that off successfully and then keep everyone quiet about it?

 

huh?

 

martin:

Sasquatch? I don't really believe in sasquatch but if I did I would doubt they are very good with explosives. Otherwise the dudes in those commericals probably wouldn't be so brave about "messin' with sasquatch".

Nope, I would say they would be professionals....maybe, like, uh, just a guess....folks with some military background of some kind or another. Don't they have people trained in that type of thing in various organization around the globe...like paramilitary or special forces.....my money would be on something along those lines. No amateurs, certainly.

Nutriaitch:

Those are some hard questions to answer and I think you're going off on the wrong track but I'll try and make my point as best I can:

How were demos installed?

-I'm not a demolition expert and I'm not interested in becoming one so can only say if, based on your questioning you believe (and rightly so) that:

bringing down a high rise like that would require lots of planning, precision placement of charges in specific places within the framework of the building in addition to complex wiring to insure the correct sequence in regard to load bearing failure......blah, blah, blah.

Yeah, I agree completely.....that's pretty goddamn tough. Which is why the odds of it happening randomly through chaotic fire and debris damage....are.......uh,.....well,....PRACTICALLY NIL. NIL.

It reminds me of that scene in CASINO when Dinero fires the useless nephew of the dude in the cowboy hat after somebody rigged the machines and hit several jackpots on the slotmachines within the span of a few minutes.

The odds of it happening are a billion to one, it would not happen, it cannot happen.

 

Look, I have never said I thought the government planned, executed then covered it up. It's more along the lines of the government covering up there own incompetence like company trying to cover up its negligence to avoid paying damages in court.

 

Bring on the tin foil hats.


The average walking around kingdom of wackos tin foil hat.



Tirks tinfoil hat.

 

again, did you not concede that fire and debris are exactly what dropped wtc one and two? did the rules of physics change between that morning and evening?

 

martin:

Well, goddamn....topnotch move there, martin.

I admit me trying to limit the debate to Bldg 7 is causing me problems, yes. But I have already admitted this. Obviously I don't really believe Towers 1&2 came down along the lines of the government story but I just can't get into that other stuff at the moment. It's a complicated deal and I was trying to tackle the "simple" issues first.

Let's put it this way....I won't argue against jet airliners....but concete and steel from a crumbling building does not reach the same temperatures that exploding jet airliners do.

Would you at least agree that the debris from Towers 1&2 shouldn't be the same temperature as the initial airplane explosions?

 

holy freakin sh*t!

let me guess, cause never before had jetliners been flown into buildings by islamic terrorists so it couldnt have happened that day?:rolleye33:

 

maybe that is why it took all damn day for 7 to drop, while 1 and 2 were down in the morning. but i know you cant believe something so crazy as that, yunno with your vast knowledge of material science and the murderous intentions of the unnamed shadow groups and thousands of conspirators?

curious, did the fire guys know? they probably didnt mind having 300+ of their guys murdered, it was worth it to keep quiet.

 

The debris would be hotter. Additionally, there would be a greater volume of hotter debris than what the initial impact produced.