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Originally posted by Krypto:

http://www.haifire.com/presentations...pse_Survey.pdf

look at the charts at the end. I point you to;
Summary of Multi-story Building Fires with Collapses.
Apartment Complex, St Petersburg, Russia -- Total
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The apartment complex was a 20 story concrete construction. It didn't have anything like reinforced steel, etc. Apparently concrete structures do collapse. I am learning more by the minute....

And the building in Alexandria was a 6 story building. I'm pretty sure that is not considered a high rise

Anybody able to tell me what the hell Silverstein meant when he said, "pull" yet.....?

Originally posted by SabanFan:

You really are dense.
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Why? Because I don't get your jokes? They might not be that funny.....

Why don't you throw in a couple of points on the issues for a change?

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There was a great show on the National Geographic channel about 9/11 and the WTC last week.
They debunked all the conspiracies.

Sourdoughman, Feb 13, 2010

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Krypto Huh?

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flabengal said: ↑

Anybody able to tell me what the hell Silverstein meant when he said, "pull" yet.....?
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How about.... "Pull It" = "Pull the plug" meaning stop trying to put the fire out. Let the fire burn itself out. They then stopped all attempts to put the fire out and moved to trying to stop the fire from spreading to other buildings.

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Originally posted by Sourdoughman:

There was a great show on the National Geographic channel about 9/11 and the WTC last week.
They debunked all the conspiracies.
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National Geographic? Hell, they've got the whole UN in on the AGW thing. You think "they" can't pull a few strings on Nat'l Geographic? Come on Sourdoughman....do you believe the Warren Commission, too?

flabengal, Feb 13, 2010

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Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition - World Trade Center 7, Building 7

Silverstein's Quote:

"I remember getting a call from the Fire Department commander, telling me they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, you know, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is just pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."

-Fact which is undisputed by either side, he was talking to the fire commander

-Fact which is undisputed by either side, both are not in the demolition business

Silverstein's spokesperson, Mr. McQuillan, later clarified:

"In the afternoon of September 11, Mr. Silverstein spoke to the Fire Department Commander on site at Seven World Trade Center. The Commander told Mr. Silverstein that there were several firefighters in the building working to contain the fires. Mr. Silverstein expressed his view that the most important thing was to protect the safety of those firefighters, including, if necessary, to have them withdraw from the building."

He could be lying, right? But here is the corroborating evidence...

"They told us to get out of there because they were worried about 7 World Trade Center, which is right behind it, coming down. We were up on the upper floors of the Verizon building looking at it. You could just see the whole bottom corner of the building was gone. We could look right out over to where the Trade Centers were because we were that high up. Looking over the smaller buildings. I just remember it was tremendous, tremendous fires going on. Finally they pulled us out. They said all right, get out of that building because that 7, they were really worried about. They pulled us out of there and then they regrouped everybody on Vesey Street, between the water and West Street. They put everybody back in there. Finally it did come down. From there - this is much later on in the day, because every day we were so worried about that building we didn't really want to get people close. They were trying to limit the amount of people that were in there. Finally it did come down." - Richard Banaciski
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Originally posted by Krypto:

How about.... "Pull It" = "Pull the plug" meaning stop trying to put the fire out. Let the fire burn itself out. They then stopped all attempts to put the fire out and moved to trying to stop the fire from spreading to other buildings.
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"Pull it" is used specifically in demolition cases.....which happen to be the only way to bring down a high rise building, as far as we know....(unless you add in an extra jet airliner).

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flabengal said: ↑

Originally posted by Krypto:

"Pull it" is used specifically in demolition cases.....which happen to be the only way to bring down a high rise building, as far as we know....(unless you add in an extra jet airliner).
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The owner and Fire Chief are not Demolition experts. They have no need/desire to use such language. However I bet they both use the term "Pull the plug" alot in their every day life.

Also Pull it refers to pulling down a building using cables. Pull it has nothing to do with explosives. If i was blowing chit up, I would use the words Blow it.

Krypto, Feb 13, 2010

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flabengal said: ↑

"Pull it" is used specifically in demolition cases.....which happen to be the only way to bring down a high rise building, as far as we know....(unless you add in an extra jet airliner).
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"pull it" is also used by some while holding up a finger at the same time. which, btw, kinda reminds me of most of your posts.

just because someone uses a word does not mean it has the meaning some conspiracy theorist thinks it does. krypto posted the explination as clarified by a spokesperson. but my guess is you dont want to believe that. you'd rather believe in conspiracy theories, the boogie man, and black helicopters flying over your house.

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Here is some more on what "pull it" means:

link:

YouTube - "Pull it" Revisited

long video but if you are curious....

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Also Pull it refers to pulling down a building using cables. Pull it has nothing to do with explosives. If i was blowing chit up, I would use the words Blow it.
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I don't care if they used cables or explosives. Did Bldg 7 collapse because of fire or was it brought down intentionally?

And why the hell would the fire brigade ask Silvestein about the timing of pulling his men out? That is not Silverstein's call to make.

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