see, this is based on wild ignorance by you. friendly fire is a constant in every war. why is friendly fire, a thing that is normal and expected, something you would not believe? and like i said governments have been glorifying the deaths of their soldiers for all of history, regardless of how they died.
because they tried to cover it up. All they would have had to do was come out and say. Pat Tillman was killed by friendly fire. It is a tragedy, and it is sad, but it is a part of war. But noooooooooooooooooooo, they had to cover it up, act like he was killed by terrorists and use Pat's celebrity to keep the propaganda machine running on all cylinders. Why did they burn his journal and gear? When you try to cover something up, it leads people to believe that there is an explicit reason for covering it up. Once again, i never said that he was killed intentionally, but there is no proof that it wasn't either. You weren't there, neither was I, so to say that you unequivocally know that it wasn't intentional is pretty ignorant as well.
Except for Davy Crockett. He was clearly the last surviving Texian, and he died on the roof of the Alamo swinging Old Betsy like a club surrounded by the scores of Mexicans he slaughtered.
again, this has been the way it has always been done. every man who dies on the battlefield is a hero. uncover the specifics if you want, but you might not like what you find. the military is basically giving the family the option of believing something good. if they refuse, so be it. again, this is not new and every military has done it, always. because soldiers are given hero stories. thats the reason, how many times must i tell you this. go read a book about a war, a personal account, any war. read the parts when guys get killed, then pay attention to how the families are notified, and the story they are told. everyone plays along, because nobody has any interest in heartbreak. the tillman story is unique, partially because they are famous, but also because they are super hardcore and hate fantasy. the brother of tillman is a hardocre atheist and told the people at the funeral that pat was ****ing dead and not in heaven. i know it wasnt intentional. because i am sane. i dont know for sure, in the same sense that i dont know it wasnt martians. our military men do not intentionally shoot their fellow men for whatever wild ****ing insane conspiracy theory you might believe in . try to be sane. the world is exciting enough without inventing fantatsies.
look man, you were not there, i was not there. i propose that tillman was killed by guerrilla gorillas, yunno, soldier monkeys. it is just ignorant to act like you know this didnt happen. sure a lifetime of basic sanity and and infant's understanding of zoology and war tactics might be relevant, but who are you to disprove my theory? ignorant. you were not there, man.
exactly. and it is up to us to ignore things that are ludicrous and not give them any credence merely because we were not there. our government doesnt purposely kill celebrity soldiers, even if they might one day be war critics. think of the incredible risk involved in arranging this sort of thing! having soldiers kill a fellow man, for whatever crazy thing you are considering. it is nuts. so stop using the "i wasnt there, anything is possible" argument. just understand that the coverup was motivated by the desire to manufacture a hero, which again is nothing new and shouldnt be surprising.
I'm trying to filter a pretty basic principle out of your statement here. Are you saying that the people that were there have more credibility than those that weren't there? Or are you saying you have to be directly present to make any comment on the subject whatsoever? How would this affect the justice system? I mean, I wasn't there but I'm pretty sure O.J. did it. I'm also pretty sure he was acquitted because of racial motivations....not a search for the truth. Why is it that I am able to say that? You and I and every other sentient being knows O.J. did it and we know if he were a white male "nobody" his ass would have been grass......but we weren't there. I've got news for you regarding government pronouncements.....they lie almost in a constant stream. Have you seen the economic data they pass off for official statistics? Do you really believe them? Point being....why in the world would you just accept what the government tells you without being at least initially skeptical?
come on dude, the military orchestrating the killing of one of their own and then covering it up to promote the war effort is a little different than trained afghan monkeys. it's cool though, i do know that, well maybe not you, but others would probably be wondering as well if it were their sibling, mom or dad.
