The Time to Act Against Iran Is Fast Approaching

why did you change your screenname?

yeah other religions are great. here is a news story from sunday:

Bomb atrocity rocks Northern Ireland

guess what, it wasnt muslims.

tenants have landlords. you mean tenets.

christians believe that they live forever, while everyone else inclusing me deserves to suffer forever in fiery torture hell.

 

Your dreams were your ticket out.

 

Problem with this thread is not that Ahab is an alter (which he may or may not be), or that he posts robotically... it's that the clear and objective facts being posted rub all you atheists the wrong way.

Page 157 of the martin handbook in replying to religion-based threads; setting up a strawman and hitting it over the head with a mallet.

 

feel free to correct me about christianity. does jesus' death on the cross not forgive your sins and grant you eternal life like i said? and are non-believers like me that deny christ going to hell? not sure what part of that i have wrong.

if we are going to mock the religion of peace, perhaps you should help us be clear about what is up with christianity as well. if it turns out i wont go to hell, i would like to hear about it.

was i worng about the long and violent history of christians? was my story about a recent bombing in northern ireland a lie? isnt it true that christians have been going at it with gusto and blowing each other up there for quite some time now? yunno, like muslims do?

 

you mean the clear and objective facts that islam is a religion of hate and all muslims want to conquer the world and kill infidels?

if so, you are right, it rubs this atheist the wrong way.

 

How is that relevant to a discussion of Islamic extremism? Your finding of Christians to be extremist has little to no relevance to the conversation -- that's your strawman.

But what else is new? This has been going on for YEARS now.

 

Yep, those. See Dearborn, Michigan.

 

i never said islamists were not extreme. i am not tearing down any strawmen. islamists are terrible. i am not saying islam is somehow not terrible because christianity is terrible.

i am pointing out that every religion has extremists. i do not agree that all muslims are bad. like christianity, islam has nice fellows and terrorists. we shouldnt bomb either indiscriminately.

ahab here claims that islam is a violent religion by nature, and that the others are only violent when they misconstrue the religion. that is wrong. all religions allow for interpretations that cause violence.

i didnt bring it up. the question was asked:

"I mean what other religion’s remedy for disbelievers are conversion, submission to the authority of Islam, or death."

my answer is that Christianity sends disbelievers to hell to burn for all eternity. how is that so different that what the claim is about islam? is your claim that Christianity is not similar in that is punishes the infidels?

 

This is deep misunderstanding on your part. The idea is not that Christians are gleefully sending unbelievers to hell.

The point is that if Christ was the Son of God then the unbelievers have rejected the Son of God and there is no other place to put them.

Kind of like if you drop something it falls to the ground. That is just the way it is...there is nothing that kind be done about it.

The central question is whether or not Christianity is true or not. You have to answer that question first and then take care of the rest.


But back to the subject at hand. Iran is not a threat to the US. The US should stay out of the Middle East and let them settle their own scores.

 

i imagine that since martin doesnt believe any of it, it is more relevant what most christians believe, not what may be the actual dogma.