The Pussification of the Western Male

Could you show me where I said it was her fault because I must not be able to read my own message.

The point was it was a joke that the media and a few NOW types making that out to be a victory for women when it was clearly a gift and publicity stunt.

Do you really think anyone can remember who she played with for her two days? DO you think they got endorsements from it? I would think the people who played with her would be a little perturbed that they earned their way there and no one can remember them.

 

hm. what i meant was that tournaments give wild cards to non-deserving people all the time. do you complain then? would it be wrong if they gave a wild card to a pro who had always been a frend of the tournament or a big name player who was having a slump and still was so famous that it was benefcial to the tournament to invite?

i am not sure who is in the wrong by your logic. annika isnt. the tournament surely isnt, they get tons of money and publicity. golf wins because of all the publicity. i win because i get to watch an interesting event.

if your point is that the NOW types are morons for claiming this proves that women are fantastic golfers, then of course thats true. but do sane people care what radical feminists say? the origial poster thought that only vijay had the guts to take a stand and he is a real man for that. that is stupid.

you would think wrong. her playing partners loved her as well as the media attention they got. they wore "go annika" stickers and rooted for her and admired her .

the only thing silly about the whole evet was stupid women claiming whatever moronic crap they claimed. it wasn unfair or bad that annika got to play, it was great. like i said, wildcard invites are for situations exactly like this one, when an unqualified person can bring something entertaining to the tournament.

 

Ben must be rolling in his grave. If a woman golfer ever legitimately earns the right to play on the men's tour more power to her but even if Annika is the best female golfer in the world she would be stuggling to stay on the Buy.com tour and earn her PGA card if she was a man with the same skills. The course at the Colonial was taylor made to give her game every opportunity to compete and she didn't make the cut. Lets see how she does from the men's tees a Pebble Beach or Bethpage or at the Masters or U.S. Open

 

Of course they were going to do that. I am sure they were talked to beforehand by the PGA or the colonial. I am sure they thought they were going to get something out of it.
Do you remember who they were? They will never even be a Trivial Pursuit question. We do not know what they think now, because no one remembers who they were to ask them the question. I cannot even remember who won the Tournament. The dog and pony show cheapened it for winner and the rest of the people who were really supposed to be there. No exemption in the past was like this, and some exemptions do go to non-qualifying PGA members, former PGA members from the area, and members of Nike Tour. People who have paid their dues or are starting to pay their dues.

 

again, you dont seem to understand that wild cards are made for exactly the reason you hate. to invite people who you dont like, if you are so hell-bent on only deserving qualifiers only getting in to tournaments.

why would it matter if they used a wild card to invite greg maddux? who cares? if you dont qualify through te tournament through regular means, then why whine about the wild cards? THEY ARE NOT MEANT FOR THE MOST QUALIFIED PERSON. understand?

 

My two cents: The idea of a wild card entrant in the field is off the mark. The competitors are supposed to be on the field because they earned it and can participate in the sport at that level. Anybody else on the field cheapens those that have earned it and belong to be there. Greg Maddux doesn't get invites to compete as a golf pro and Phil Mickelson doesn"t pitch in pro baseball. It's not like the Colonial is an exhibition or something.

Regardless, I think the excellent points made on the original post are being missed. The fact of the matter is the Bayou Bomber is right. I lived in Europe for 4 years and let me tell you it is revolting what goes on there. (In some ways, not all...) Those people were once the center of Christinanity and boy have they lost it. If you could by stock in continents I would short Europe. Those people have no chance. Quick point and then I"m done:
-Legal age of consent for sex is 14 years old.
-34 year old man starts dating a 15 year old girl and it's all on the up and up. The whole town knows. He even tells the parents of the girl the "relationship" is going to become "sexual". The parents reaction? Dismay, disapproval....no....they give him condoms. He screws her for a year and then dumps her. I know all the people involved and I can promise you she is not better off for the experience. Not by a long shot. There's more but you wouldn't believe it. Anyway, that guy should be SHOT for what he did to her. AND MY POINT IS? I'LL TELL YOU- THE PEOPLE WE'RE OK WITH IT, THAT'S THE PROBLEM...THAT JACKASS DESERVED TO BE OSTRACIZED AND RUN OUT OF TOWN BUT THEY DID'NT DO A THING....FOR ME THAT'S ALL I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THOSE CLOWNS....

 

I never said the most qualified person just that some go to people who had at least attempted to pay their dues in the PGA. I understand what exemptions/wildcards are. My post in reference to this being a dog and pony show because of this exemption was "...No exemption in the past was like this, and some exemptions do go to non-qualifying PGA members, former PGA members from the area, and members of Nike Tour. People who have paid their dues or are starting to pay their dues." Again it was about some exemptions and that I have never seen a wild card cause such a circus that I cannot even remember the winner, because that (the winner) was not really the story of that Tournament. Please read my post BEFORE YOU YELL AT ME. Understand?

You have a tendency to either not read the entire post or at least not get it. You have brought up twice that I may be implying that Annaka is at fault, but again I never said this and even asked you to point that out in my post in one reply. My first comment was mostly directed at the Media and the NOW types with one comment that it would have been better served to go to a struggling player (not that this is what they are for), and you have taken it down three or four different roads to now having to have a discussion over the definitions of exemtions/wildcard instead of focusing on the original message that started this discussion. As I am trying to look busy at my computer to avoid changing a diaper right now, which is the only reason I am wasting my time replying to our definition sidetrack, I guess I am getting some benefit from this.

 

and i have told you a billion times that sponsor exemptions arent for people who "earn" them. they are for the whim of he tournament. they are so the tournament can invite people who might increase the publicity for the event.

read your own words "non-qualifying PGA members, former PGA members from the area".

so you dont care if people who by your own descriptions are "non-qualifiying" get in. you only care if it is a woman? nike tour members arent "qualified" either, but they can get sponsor exemptions. but you complain that anika "did not earn it" all the while describing the list of other people who also didnt earn it but you find perfectly acceptable, for no other reason than that you are irrational.

so again, you remain unable to understand that wild cards are specifically made for people who didnt "earn it". my guess is i could tell you that 3 more times before you would get it.

sure, thats why i quoted you so much this time, to point out how inconsistent you are.

i agree with you that the media overdid it, when clearly she is inferior (just like nike tour players and others who you somehow find acceptable entrants to the tourney).


so to steer back to he original foolishness of this post:

do you agree with that? its very stupid. why cant the golfers just play in the tournament and not care who they invite. if i was in it i would play hard and win as much money as i could, and hopefully destroy annika. if i was lucky i would be paired with her and become famous for a few days.

please. you can't be claiming you would have remembered otherwise. the reason you cant remember the winner has nothing to do with the dog and pony show.

 

Okay, who wrote this and what site did it appear on? I'd like to know.

While I don't agree with everything the article stated, I do agree that we have been lurching toward the "Mommy State" for quite sometime. I just don't think women are totally to blame for it, although they partially share the blame.

 

Shrub getting elected is part of the wussification of America--can you imagine a preppy wannabe being considered a real man 100 years ago?

John McCain--now THERE'S a real man.

And as far as Sorenstam is concerned, I'm not gonna tell someone who paid however many dollars to sponsor an event they can't enter whoever they want. Yeah it was a publicity stunt. I'd sure as hell want a lot of publicity if I paid out the wazoo to sponsor an event.