The Party of zero morals, zero patriotism, and extreme hypocrisy

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  1. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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  2. Jmg

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    they caught another mass shooter, this one with a racial element, black guy shot 3 koreans, but he is black, it doesnt feed the "tucker carlson caused everything" narrative so the story will vanish in hours
     
  3. Rex

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  4. Jmg

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    why should he take taxpayer money from older and uneducated folks to give to the folks with youth and education?

    having education itself worth a massive amount of money why give them even more? shouldnt we giving those benefits to the uneducated? perhaps the poor and people of color? better to give it to whites that went to expensive liberal arts schools on the east coast?
     
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  5. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    If you needed more proof that HRC is scum read this testimony about who approved disseminating the fake news on Trump during the 2016 election. @Rex your party has no ethics. @shane0911 this isn’t another Trump bash article really.
    Hillary Clinton approved dissemination of Trump-Russian bank allegations to media, campaign manager testifies

    WASHINGTON — Former Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook testified Friday that then-Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton approved the dissemination of materials alleging a covert communications channel between the Trump Organization and Russia’s Alfa Bank to the media, despite campaign officials not being "totally confident" in the legitimacy of the data.

    Former FBI General Counsel James Baker testified Thursday that the bureau investigated the data alleging a Trump connection to the Kremlin-linked bank, and found that "there was nothing there."

    SPECIAL COUNSEL JOHN DURHAM'S PROSECUTION OF MICHAEL SUSSMANN: EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW

    Mook was called to the stand for testimony by Michael Sussmann’s defense Friday.

    During cross-examination by government prosecutor Andrew DeFillippis Friday, Mook was asked about the campaign’s understanding of the Alfa Bank allegations against Trump and whether they planned to release the data to the media.

    Mook said he was first briefed about the Alfa Bank issue by campaign general counsel Marc Elias, who at the time was a partner at lawfirm Perkins Coie.

    Mook testified that he was told that the data had come from "people that had expertise in this sort of matter."

    SUSSMANN-DURHAM TRIAL: PROSECUTION SAYS CLINTON LAWYER USED FBI TO CREATE AN 'OCTOBER SURPRISE' AGAINST TRUMP

    Mook said the campaign was not totally confident in the legitimacy of the data, but had hoped to give the information to a reporter who could further "run it down" to determine if it was "accurate" or "substantive."

    He also said he discussed whether to give the information to a reporter with senior campaign officials, including campaign chairman John Podesta, senior policy advisor, now White House National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan, and communications director Jennifer Palmieri.

    "I discussed it with Hillary as well," Mook said.

    "I don’t remember the substance of the conversation, but notionally, the discussion was, hey, we have this and we want to share it with a reporter," Mook said.

    The government asked Mook if Clinton approved "the dissemination" of the data to the media.

    "She agreed," Mook testified.

    Mook later said he "can't recall the exact sequence of events," when asked if he shared the idea to give the Trump-Alfa Bank allegations to the media with Clinton before or after the decision was made.

    "All I remember is that she agreed with the decision," Mook testified.

    BAKER SAYS FBI INVESTIGATED SUSSMANN CLAIMS OF TRUMP, RUSSIAN BANK CONNECTION: 'THERE WAS NOTHING THERE'

    Sussmann has been charged with making a false statement to the FBI when he told Baker in September 2016, less than two months before the presidential election, that he was not doing work "for any client" when he requested and attended a meeting in which he presented "purported data and ‘white papers’ that allegedly demonstrated a covert communicates channel" between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, which has ties to the Kremlin.

    Durham’s team alleges Sussmann was, in fact, doing work for two clients: the Hillary Clinton campaign and a technology executive, Rodney Joffe. Following the meeting with Baker, Sussmann billed the Hillary Clinton campaign for his work.

    Sussmann has pleaded not guilty to the charge.

    Mook, earlier in questioning from the defense, was asked whether he or anyone on the Clinton campaign approved or gave Sussmann permission to bring the allegations to the FBI, to which he said: "No."

    Later, the defense further questioned Mook, asking if Hillary Clinton herself approved Sussmann going to the FBI.

    "I'm not aware," Mook testified.

    When asked again, he said: "I don't know…I don't know why she would."

    The government, in its opening statement Tuesday, argued that Sussmann's delivery of the Trump-Alfa Bank allegations to the FBI was part of the Clinton campaign's plan to create an "October surprise" against then-candidate Donald Trump.

    The government moved to admit a tweet from Clinton dated Oct. 31, 2016 as evidence, despite U.S. District Judge Christopher Cooper ruling last month that the court would exclude that tweet as hearsay.

    SUSSMANN-DURHAM TRIAL: MARC ELIAS SAYS HE BRIEFED CLINTON CAMPAIGN OFFICIALS ON FUSION GPS OPPO AGAINST TRUMP

    Cooper, Friday, granted the government’s motion to admit the Clinton tweet, which stated:

    "Computer scientists have apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank."

    Clinton also shared a statement from Jake Sullivan, which stated: "This could be the most direct link yet between Donald Trump and Moscow. Computer scientists have uncovered a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank."

    Sullivan said the "secret hotline may be the key to unlocking the mystery of Trump’s ties to Russia."

    "This line of communication may help explain Trump’s bizarre adoration of Vladimir Putin and endorsement of so many pro-Kremlin positions throughout this campaign," Sullivan's 2016 statement continued. "It raises even more troubling questions in light of Russia’s masterminding of hacking efforts that are clearly intended to hurt Hillary Clinton’s campaign."

    Sullivan added that they "can only assume federal authorities will now explore this direct connection between Trump and Russia as part of their existing probe into Russia’s meddling in our elections."

    When asked for the definition of an "October surprise" Friday, Mook testified that it is "the idea that you have a devastating piece of opposition research and drop it on candidate so the candidate doesn't have time to respond or recover from it and, as a result, loses the election."

    When pressed to identify the date of the Clinton tweet for the jury, Mook stated: "Oct. 31, 2016."

    Mook defended the tweet saying: "I did not see it as some sort of silver bullet and I don't think that others on the campaign did either."

    As for the Trump-Alfa Bank allegations in general, Mook said: "We thought this was highly suspect and, if it was true, we wanted the American public to know about it for sure."

    Mook again called the data "certainly alarming and suspicious."

    Meanwhile, Baker testified Thursday that the FBI began an investigation into the Trump-Alfa Bank allegations, which lasted "several weeks, maybe a month, maybe a month and a half."

    "We concluded there was no substance," Baker testified. "We couldn’t confirm it. We could not confirm there was a surreptitious communications channel."

    Baker added: "There was nothing there."

    In testimony on Tuesday afternoon, FBI Special Agent Scott Hellman also said the data revealing the alleged covert communications channel between Trump and Russia that Sussmann brought to the FBI turned out to be untrue, and said he did not agree with the narrative.

    Hellman testified that whoever drafted the narrative describing the DNS data was "5150," and clarified on the stand that meant he believed the individual who came to the conclusions "was suffering from some mental disability."

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  6. Rex

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    Key passage:

    Mook said the campaign was not totally confident in the legitimacy of the data, but had hoped to give the information to a reporter who could further "run it down" to determine if it was "accurate" or "substantive."

    As for the source of the possible connection between trump and Alfa Bank, the internet researchers stand behind their work, and contend that it is Durham who is misleading:

    "The Alfa Bank results “have been validated and are reproducible. The findings of the researchers were true then and remain true today; reports that these findings were innocuous or a hoax are simply wrong,” said Jody Westby and Mark Rasch, lawyers for David Dagon, a Georgia Institute of Technology data scientist and one of the researchers whom the indictment discussed but did not name."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/01/us/politics/trump-alfa-bank-indictment.html

    Do you have any ACTUAL wrongdoing to complain about? And do you ever look deeper than your rightwing hacks on ANYTHING?




     
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  7. Winston1

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    Did I say it was illegal? Legal or not it’s scummy. You always says the democrats are the moral party. It’s not and you’re one of the biggest hypocrites around. This was just another opportunity to demonstrate the fact.
     
  8. Rex

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    It's scummy to hand over information to a reporter for that reporter to check out/substantiate? I DON'T THINK SO. It would have been irresponsible not to, considering that this was the presidency we're talking about, and our president should not be beholden to foreign entities.
     
  9. Kikicaca

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    Yo Winston are the walls closing in on HRC?
     
  10. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Is that why every time Ukraine asks for money Biden gets on his knees for them?
     

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