The Navy's investigation into John Kerry's medals...

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  1. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    You are in the minority here if you think your candidate will lose the election.
    About you not responding to Republicans.....

    Its a shame that you are so weakminded that you can't debate and stand on
    your own two feet.

    Oh You of so little faith!:lol:

    Why don't you find a radical left wing website to go to?

    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

    Can anybody find a Vietnam veteran that got as many medals as Kerry in 4
    months, muchless a boat driver?
    How many swift boat people burned down villages?
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I had very serious reservations about George Bush in 2000, but I also had them about Al Gore. It was a tough call. In the end, as a centrist, I thought maybe it was time for a change of party after 8 years of Democratic administrations. Governments need to be changed regularly, in my opinion, to keep the country on the road and not swerving steadily to the left or the right.

    I hoped that Bush would be closer to the center than Al Gore. I was wrong. The Bush administration took a sharp turn to the right, as though he had some kind of a mandate with only 50% of the vote. And it was a new kind of right. This republican administration increased government spending at 3 times the rate of the Clinton administration. And that's not war costs. The Bush non-military government budget increased at FOUR times that of the Clinton administration. And then, during a period when the market tanked and tax revenues decreased AND while an expensive and avoidable foreign war was going on--he irresponsibly cut government revenues producing an unprecedented budget deficit of a Trillion dollars. This is not the conservative republican party of Reagan. This is a radical, right-wing party that is saddling America with a record National Debt that will lead to inflation and reduced Social Security benefits for young Americans, according to Alan Greenspan, who ought to know, if anybody does.

    In truth, I really don't give much of a rats ass about Bush's Champaign tour of the National Guard. I put that up just to show how petty and inappropriate the mudslinging against Kerry has become. The fact is, we have no idea if Kerrys combat service would make him a better President or not. I had no idea if Bush's non-combat record would make him a worse President or not in 2000. But now I have four years of Bush's conduct as President to judge him by. And it ain't pretty.

    Unprecedented national debt, an expensive avoidable war, increased government size, tax breaks for the wealthy, budget deficits, environmental lethargy, fewer allies, more enemies, a stagnant economy, fewer jobs for Americans, and a bitterly divided country.

    I voted for him in 2000 basically because he was easygoing and likable and talked tough. That's just not enough for me anymore. I expected some smarter policies and I have been gravely disappointed.

    I want a change.
     
  3. uscpuke

    uscpuke Founding Member

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    Red -
    This was a great response..very well put. You do have one thing wrong however.
    G W Bush did not take a turn to the right...he veered way left, to the point where I feel there is no true Republican party anymore.
    Soft on immigration and big on government spending are traits of a democrat. We do not have any Reagan Republicans anymore - no true conservatives. We have the Republicans who are now Democrats and the Democrats are now socialist. I am not a huge fan of our president - but I could not ever fathom voting for a senator with one of the most liberal voting records in our nations history.
     
  4. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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  5. Beaux-Bo

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    Rex,
    Didn’t you start this thread????????
    You start a controversial political thread and then state that you will not participate in a discussion on issues with any one who disagrees with you.

    “I will not be answering your questions or responding to your posts...”

    Then do not start a controversial thread.

    Didn’t you post about a week ago that you did not want to talk politics here on this board? You were here just to talk sports?

    Post your address and I will mail you a pair of flip flops. You take the cake.
    :usaflagwa :laflagwav :lsug:
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Well, . . . yes. The perpetrators of the first WTC bombing were captured and prosecuted. The Millenium Bombing Plot which was a Al Qaida operation on a 9/11 scale was uncovered and prevented. Clinton tried to kill Osama bin Laden twice with cruise missile strikes in Afghanistan in retaliation for the USS Cole and embassy bombings. Didn't kill him, but it was worth a try and it didn't cost any American lives and very little money. Clinton unleashed the CIA with orders to eliminate bin Laden, they didn't manage it, but the President was taking prudent action.

    Richard Clark testified to the 9/11 commission that a whole range of anti-Al Qaida activites were underway in the Clinton administration, most of which were stopped abruptly by the Bush administration who was only concerned with Saddam until 9/11. And mostly with Saddam since then.

    Meanwhile Osama walks free, somewhere in Pakistan.


    By God, I hear you Sourdough! Kerry wasn't my first choice for President either, but the primaries are rigged so that only the Iowa and New Hampshire winners ever get past March. I was a General Clark supporter, but Louisiana never gets a vote that matters. I defend Kerry's military record because he served honorably and I think it's disgraceful to disrespect a veteran in that fashion just because you don't like his politics. Kerry is to the left of what I'm looking for but he's the only alternative to another four years of George II.

    I didn't vote for Gore in 2000 because I thought he was a pussy. And look what it got me. My revised 2004 criteria is to elect the most brainpower available. A clever President can find ways to compensate for his shortcomings.
     
  7. G_MAN113

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    Beg to differ, there, Red. It ended up costing over 3000 lives and sent our economy into a tailspin that we're just now recovering from.

    Cruise missile strikes aside, why didn't Clinton accept the Sudanese offer to turn him over to us? That was a major blunder on the Clinton administration's part.

    Might have helped a little if Clinton hadn't hamstrung them by slashing their
    budget and saddling them w/ regulations about whom they could deal with and how they dealt with them. The intel game is a dirty business...sometimes you've got to get down in the mud and roll around w/ some unsavory characters to obtain the info you need. The Clinton administration seemed to think that we needed to be above all that...at
    the expense of gathering crucial information.
     
  8. G_MAN113

    G_MAN113 Founding Member

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    Then you need to write in George Will. If we were truly electing our "best and brightest" to lead the free world, this man would win in a landslide.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I would if I could. George Will is the only conservative columnist with balance, brainpower and keen perception. He is an old-school conservative, much more to the center than the neo-cons in power. He is deeply suspicious and mildly critical of the Iraq War.

    George Will and Maureen Dowd are at opposite ends of the political spectrum, but they are clearly the smartest, wittiest, most articulate, and policially savvy writers out there.
     
  10. rickyd

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    I would suggest we honor rex in the same manner, absolutely, positively, no replies to any of his threads. Let him, crawsissy, and maxi-pads talk amongst themselves. :thumb: :rofl: :rofl:
     

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