The Navy's investigation into John Kerry's medals...

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  1. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    thats ok, i wont miss anything. after all, your father in law got a purple heart, and now he is dead, so any investigation of kerry's awards is an abomination. everybody knows that, even though it makes no sense.
     
    martin, Sep 6, 2004
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  2. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Bengal B, Sep 6, 2004
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  3. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    All hail Rex! First you say:
    Then this:
    and this:
    and, finally:
    We are all very impressed with your ability to carry on a civil conversation. :dis:
     
    SabanFan, Sep 6, 2004
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  4. Chipeace

    Chipeace Country Roads Tiger

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    test
     
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  5. JSracing

    JSracing Founding Member

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    and we have a WINNER just like the lil old lady with the good card! yep YOU BINGO- ED KERRY WILL SLIP INTO OBSCURITY LIKE GORE AND DUKAKIS. WELCOME TO YOUR WORLD! :thumb: :grin: :grin: :grin: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :wink: :D :D :D :D :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :911: :911: :911: :911: :911: :911: :911: :911: :911: :911: :911: :911:
     
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  6. crawfish

    crawfish Founding Member

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    You left George Bush Sr. off your list...............
     
    crawfish, Sep 6, 2004
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  7. marcmc99

    marcmc99 Founding Member

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    My best friend was just awarded the Purple Heart, along with a Bronze Star and the Mississippi Magnolia Cross. I know how he earned his medals and what he sacrificed for them. I think at least the families of soldiers like him deserve to know the truth about what Mr. Kerry did to earn his, regardless of whether or not the rest of America deserves to know. I don't know who in the hell you are, but for you to defend a man who will stand up and boast about winning three Purple Hearts for injuries that didn't even warrant his missing a day of service is appalling in itself. And just for your information, I am neither Republican or Democrat, I am a conservative American that is not a member of any political party, so feel free to respond away.
     
    marcmc99, Sep 7, 2004
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  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    We can debate endlessly about what some politically motivated statements that wouldn't stand up in a court of law really mean. But the public records of John Kerry show that he volunteered and served two tours of duty in a combat zone and was highly decorated. The public record shows George Bush was absent without leave from his national guard unit during wartime and lost his flight status by failing to take a drug test. There were attempts to cover this up. There is significant evidence of favoritism shown to the Congressmans son.

    Bush Files Details Caused Concerns

    "As Texas Gov. George W. Bush prepared to run for president in the late 1990s, top-ranking Texas National Guard officers and Bush advisers discussed ways to limit the release of potentially embarrassing details from Bush's military records, a former senior officer of the Texas Guard said Wednesday."


    Pentagon Says Bush Record of Service Were Destroyed

    "Military records that could help establish President Bush's whereabouts during his disputed service in the Texas Air National Guard more than 30 years ago have been inadvertently destroyed, according to the Pentagon."


    Pentagon Finds Bush's Guard Records

    "The Pentagon on Friday released newly discovered payroll records from President Bush's 1972 service in the Alabama National Guard, though the records shed no new light on the future president's activities during that summer. . . . The newly released computerized payroll records show no indication Bush drilled with the Alabama unit during July, August and September of 1972. Pay records covering all of 1972, released previously, also indicated no guard service for Bush during those three months."


    Bush Records Raise More Questions Than They Answer

    "We know now that there were certified Air Force flight surgeons assigned to Maxwell Air Force Base in Montgomery at the time when Bush was living in Montgomery, Alabama, where Maxwell is located. This means that Bush lied to us when he claimed that he could not take the drug test in Alabama because his personal doctor was in Houston–only certified flight surgeons were qualified to administer the test.

    Bush says that he quit flying because his group was phasing out the F-102 when he returned to Ellington after the political campaign in Alabama. But we know now that Bush’s excuse for his abandoning flying the F-102 was false, that his group was still flying F-102’s for a year after he left the service. We learned from his commander, Major General Bobby W. Hodges, that ''If [Bush] had come back to Houston, I would have kept him flying the 102 until he got out. But I don't recall him coming back at all.''

    And there are the haunting voices of the late Lieutenant Colonel William D. Harris Jr. and Lieutenant Colonel Jerry B. Killian, whose reports state that they could not fill out Bush’s annual evaluation because, ''Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period of report."
     
    red55, Sep 7, 2004
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  9. marcmc99

    marcmc99 Founding Member

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    Let's look at it this way. A worst case scenario for Bush. He avoided going to Vietnam by pulling some strings and stayed at home.

    Best case for Kerry, based on what he says and the facts we have. He enlisted even though he actively spoke out against the war while in college. By enlisting he was able to pick where is served. His first service was on a ship out of harms way. Next he volunteered for swift boat duty, which at the time was out of harm's way as well. Two weeks after, the swift boat mission changed and he was forced into danger. He won several medals, which are questionable, but for his sake we will say he earned them. He fought a war he was against, taking human lives while not believing what he was doing was right, rather than objecting. He came home and accused his fellow soldiers of war crimes and attempted to undermine the war effort while we still had soldiers in harms way.

    Even if the worst is true of Bush, he is not nearly as bad as Kerry, even if he is all he claims to be.
     
    marcmc99, Sep 7, 2004
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  10. G_MAN113

    G_MAN113 Founding Member

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    Red, you claim to have voted for George W. Bush in 2000...if any of this stuff
    means anything, why didn't it bother you THEN?
     
    G_MAN113, Sep 7, 2004
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