The Meth Epidemic

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  1. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Yeah, with Asians taking over the past couple of decades, it definitely is a problem.

    High School Graduates can't even do simple algebra.

    And, uh......

    Oh, nevermind.
     
  2. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    freakin great. im in a semi-rural area and have to pick up bottles and litter the freakin trashy okies throw out their windows. now im gonna have to be worried one might be a meth bottle? :eek:
     
  3. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    what do you mean, this is a "tricky" one?

    nothing tricky about it.

    Meth has got to be way up the chain of worst debilitating and addictive drugs ever.

    Again, nothing tricky about it.
     
  4. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    So are you going to make sudafed illegal? and any other household chemicals? also i don't believe in just throwing money at problems and locking people up, it does nothing. You take one meth user off the streets and 20 more pop up. Now we find out you can make it without a lab? I don't know what to do about this problem, but the answer isn't as easy as, lock someone up, and throw more money at it.
     
  5. bayareatiger

    bayareatiger If it's too loud YOU'RE TOO OLD

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    F'n Sooners.

    Have the Sooner Schooner swing by and pick 'em up. :hihi:
     
  6. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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  7. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    oklahoma has some of the toughest laws in the nation and the laws many other states copied for their own use. i buy cold medicine and i get carded.


    my answer, tho it requires money, is something thats a cross between prison and inpatient treatment. its being shown that drug courts are effective, why not "drug prisons"? not like what you would consider a typical prison, but smaller and to house only drug user offenders. but instead of throwing em in and throwing away the key, staff them with qualified drug and alcohol counselors. mandatory morning and afternoon group sessions, individual sessions, mandatory random drug tests. structure it like many rehabs and at the end of (or after) the sentence, move the prisoner to more of a halfway house environment where they can continue counseling and make the adjustment into the world, drug free.

    yes, it costs money. but rehabilitating people would put the cost on the front end instead of locking them up over and over.

    and yes, people have to want to change. but a prison sentence that is forcing treatment on a person over a long period of time is gonna have more success at turning people around much more so than just throwing them in jail. forcing treatment can work, it just doesnt have the success rates of people voluntarily seeking treatment.

    hell, throw habitual drunk drivers in there too. jail isnt working for them.
     
  8. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    If it was up to me, we'd go all Kuala Lumpur on every one of these drug abusing losers. It would solve a lot of problems.
     
  9. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    Just because you can buy a product legally doesn't mean you can use it for illegal purposes. The list is endless, but here's a couple: guns. fertilizer. yep, fertilizer. It is perfectly legal to buy, but what Tim McVeigh did w/ it wasn't. Of course, w/ your logic, we should just make bombs and gun crimes legal.

    You asked me once before if I thought pot should be legalized. I answered yes. However, it's not legal. Therefore, I don't want it anywhere around me. I too am in the heart of meth country. If you get caught w/ even a 16 oz jar of anhydrous ammonia, you go to jail around here. Farmers can use it, meth cookers can't.

    Okie may be on to something w/ the rehab prison. However, as the laws are now, I am just fine w/ locking them up for a long time. These guys steal from their own mothers. They will do anything to get their fix.
     
  10. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    what if it was your kid or your nephew that was addicted to meth, how would you feel about it then?
     

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