Well, CParso, at least from what I've seen, I've been the instigator/advocate of a lot more controversial issues on here than you. You've been on here longer than me, so that may not be the case, unbeknownst to me. I'm just speaking from my observations in the time that I've been on here. Is it coincidental that threads always blow up to loads of pages when I get involved? I am in no way absolving myself from engaging in the tactics you outlined. But rarely does it come up in reference to that. It's always something along the lines of 'Oh you're too young to know anything about politics', or 'You're too young to know how the real world works'. If they were in response to bickering, I wouldn't even bring it up. Interesting take. But I guess one constant in my life has been that ignorance incenses me. Whether it's directed at me or not, when I see or hear people making oblivious, ignorant, egomaniacal statements, I get a little hot under the collar and sometimes feel this overarching obligation to mirror that attitude in perhaps an overtly sarcastic manner. Is it a good strategy? Probably not. Why would I expect someone making what I consider to be ignorant statements to digest a lesson in mockery? But we've all got our faults. I love feeling like I'm on trial. I feel like Eminem or something. :hihi:
Just curious CC, how old are you? I'm 23. Just got out of LSU less than a year ago. There, it's on the table. Does my opinion suddenly carry less weight?
They have those? Wouldn't that just be a 'true' conservative? The difference between neo-conservatives and 'true' conservatives is that the neo's favor enlarging government, and are fiscally quite liberal. And the difference between libertarians and true conservatives is that libertarians are very socially liberal. So how would a social conservative Christian libertarian differ from a 'true' conservative?
I'll be 27 in September. Why in the world would your opinion carry less weight? Doesn't matter to me, man. There are plethoras of people younger than me that are way smarter than I.
I didn't think it would man. Just trying to give you some support against the geezers who would think less of what you have to say. ;-) There are socially conservative Libertarians and Christian Libertarians. Usually, all that means is they are pro-life Libertarians; they are against legalized abortion because they believe the unborn child is a human life and abortion=murder. Some go beyond that, believing that the U.S. is a nation that is a nation founded on Judeo-Christian ethics and principles, and that that truth would prevail if we went back to a rigidly strict interpretation of the Constitution. That's also how they differ from paleo-conservatives. Paleo-cons were never wild about a return to Federalist principles. An example, since it's been in the news lately: Richard Nixon, often demonized by the Left as the progenitor and epitomy of the "EVIL right wing," created the Environmental Protection Agency. If either Christian Libertarians or all-out Libertarians had their way, the EPA would never have been created. But that is another discussion for another time.
thats true i do blanket insults by the bucketfull. but i try not to take direct shots at anyone in particular. in fact i will say things like "christianity is for morons", but i never say a particular person is a moron, or at least i try not to and i should be corrected for being a jerk if i do that. i could be wrong but i get the impression you are a bit more personal than than that, and tend to discuss people rather then the issue they are discussing. i think if you look through my posts, you will see i almost always discuss issues (this post aside).
yeah really, they have those? a true libertarian would think of christianity as completely independent of politics, a whole separate issue. i dont think they would include their religion when describing their political philosophy any more than they would include their favorite sports team.
I certainly wouldn't say I discuss the person more than the issues. I honestly don't know how you got that impression. I should feel somewhat insulted by that, given the immense amount of time and effort I've dedicated to this board & the issues recently. Maybe sometimes I'm guilty of spouting off a little diatribe about their way of thinking, or how they arrived at such a conclusion. But that bears with it an inherent inclusion of the issues. You're pretty condescending towards people, too, Martin. It just typically doesn't get as much attention as when I do it because you usually seem to agree with the majority.
i do not dispute that that are people calling themselves christian libertarians, even though to me it sort of makes no sense to call yourself that. but there are definitely pro-life libertarians, and this is from their website: "Libertarians for Life was founded in 1976 to show why abortion is a wrong, not a right. Our reasoning is expressly scientific and philosophical rather than either pragmatic or religious, or merely political or emotional. " interesting. so may groups of people are so close to be right about everything, but they cant quite make it. only martin hs attained perfection in his political philosophy.
bring up a religious issue and watch me attempt to infuriate the majority. i will condescend the crap out of them, it is awesome.
